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Sorry, but I really don’t believe the hype on these stories. You can find all kinds of like/love stories on every prospect. We had tons of good stuff to say about Young, Stroud and AR. Same with Pickett and friends the year before. We met and had positive articles on Pickett, Willis and Corral. Stroud called Nicole Mama Tepp so maybe Nicole was smitten by Stroud and it was Reich and Fitterer who vetoed her for Young. 95% of the stories about McCown were that he told CJ that they’d play a pickup game in Charlotte. Stroud loves sports including basketball so that’s literally small talk with CJ. I’ll say it again, if Josh and Frank loved CJ so much then I’m glad they are gone. If after their many years in the NFL (as QBs no less) they can’t convince Fitterer and Tepper to go Stroud that’s sad.

Agree. We had maybe a couple actually good moves out of dozens of draft picks, FAs and trades. There’s so little good that I can’t understand why we would want to keep anyone. If Morgan wasn’t a former Panther, no one would be suggesting to keep him.

Thanks! We already know we aren’t going to the playoffs, even if we are in the 1 division with the easiest route, so maybe we actually take advantage of it. If Fitterer isn’t gone, we’ll likely spend a ton of future cap to try and get to 5 wins and we’ll waste our chance yet again.

While it would suck watching, 0-17 might be the best thing for us. It would simultaneously prove Young isn’t the guy and give us the top pick to select our future QB, hopefully.

You and me both. Still can’t believe so many idiots said we couldn’t possibly replace Burns. We could have traded the 2nd for Sweat and had two firsts. Fitterer just completed fuged it up. Anyone could see that two firsts and pick 36 (could have used a 4th to trade up to Levis’ pick and taken La Porta) plus $25-30M to sign a Floyd/Reddick level edge and also a $10-12M OL like a healthy Corbett, could net us 5 starters. A smart GM would have asked SF for their 2024 1st and 2nd and gotten 3 1sts and a 2nd for Burns and Moore and whatever else we could have gotten for Chinn and anyone not named Luvu/Brown so that we tank the rest of 2023. Young sucks but had we just used our single pick in the draft to get him, it wouldn’t hurt so bad. Instead we have no CMC, an unsigned Burns, no Moore, a Chinn with no value and we are minus big picks instead of having extra 1sts and 2nds.

Welp, I got this one right. Shocking how most of the bad ones ended up true. Still think so? It was fun to bitch about Rhule but this team is far worse now than it was when he was fired. I still remember very close games in 2020 against both #1 seeds. If we played Baltimore and SF, they would have curb stomped us this year. Heck, after week 3 and still in week 4, we thought 2021 was a playoff team. Fitterer got more control per her fans to start 2022 offseason and brought us Reich and the current state of 2023. If you asked me if I would want Rhule for a decade or a team where Fitterer is the GM for a decade, I’d take Rhule in a heartbeat.

You missed not trading DJ Moore last year for pick 15 instead of throwing him in on Young’s deal. Could have drafted Jaxon S-N, Addison or Flowers and at least had a cheap WR for a few years. Then we might have traded Burns to move up for Young instead and just maybe not give up pick #1 overall since Burns was worth 2 1sts and a 2nd compared to a 1st for Moore. Also, trading CMC for 5% of the Young deal and DJ Johnson seems like a comically bad trade.

It’s official, we are the worst team in the NFL and are looking at being the Browns of old who had top 5 picks every year and fuged them all up. Iky, Horn, Young and trading the 2024 #1 overall pick for nothing. Woo hoo! We are the new Lions/Browns.

Bryce doesn’t have it, regardless of how bad the rest of the team is. There is so much bad on this team that we’ve got a long time before we’ll see a good team, especially if we don’t drop kick Fitterer out of the Carolinas.

Should be 17-9.

Why is Marshall even still playing? Lol at the idiots who thought he was going to be our breakout 1000 yard guy.

No poo. That’s pee wee football knowledge. He can’t even be positive when he’s not even in the play. His blocking effort and penalty took away two potential nice TD runs and we drafted him over a pro bowl C when we needed one.

TMJ with a hell of a blocking attempt on Chuba’s run.

SMH, why is he holding it with one hand before he gets hits. Ridiculously dumb move.

And we still cannot cover Mike Evans. So lucky Mayfield didn’t get more on it.

Wait was that Horn?

Gotta love that our QB gets sacked by a rookie starter taken 2 picks after the guy we traded up to get at the same position. Fitterer is just trash. DJ pick 80 - 16 tackles, 1 TFL, 0 sacks Diaby pick 82 - 34 tackles, 11 TFLs, 7.5 sacks* * updated for the sack he just got

That’s not good. Houston and Sanders were the two big FA signings and you can’t do any worse. That’s my concern. I personally just want one of the quality GMs available, some of whom we likely passed over for Shitterer. Let that GM fill out scouting, etc. There’s nothing worth keeping from the past 3 seasons of GM/scouting so it is a little disappointing that we’d even think about hiring from within.

Fitterer said himself that he’s been high on Young for two years.

I don’t know if Morgan is truly qualified to step up but that doesn’t surprise me and also shows how Fitterer was making picks not just forced by Tepper to make picks. Fitterer was just trash. Why panic for DJ Johnson, a mediocre prospect, when a guy like Leonard Floyd was teamless and only cost the Bills $7M? The guy at the fantasy draft who would end all of the runs always sucked.

And? I’m not saying it can’t be posted. It just shocks me how much people believe poo like this. It’s almost as if there aren’t tweets about every single scenario (we were drafting all 4 of the top QBs last draft) and whichever one fits is gold and has to be true. There’s a big difference between discussing whether or not Harbaugh would work here and if he’d want to come here/if we might want him and believing a talking head’s assertion that we’ve already turned down Harbaugh’s request to be our new coach and use it as proof that Tepper is going to be calling plays and designing our new offense or saying Ben Johnson is a yes man. I just think the latter is just bizarre. When I say a lot that I want Fitterer is gone, it’s because of moves he actually has or hasn’t made.

Agree. Tepper has been awful and should know better than to respond but it’s comical that these fans are going to say nothing was said or done to provoke Tepper into throwing a drink. Tepper wants the Panthers to win and he acted like a spoiled brat who got into an argument with an opposing fan who like every idiot these days feels like they can do or say anything they want. I miss back in the day when people were polite and friendly and not a bunch of assholes looking to fight and post it on social media, Tepper included.

Look at the posts in here talking about Tepper and Harbaugh as if people know either of them and know that they’ve had a conversation, which I doubt has even occurred. It’s kind of sad how many people jump on rumors and honestly pure BS and run with it and have as much conviction in them as Fitterer did with Young.

Tepper has taken over the mantle of the boogeyman/most hated so anything he wants means that that person must be willing to cede all play calling and scouting and everything else to Tepper. I think Tepper has blown ever since he kept Hurney too long but I find it really weird how many people still try to make excuses for bad GMs and coaching (Tepper hired them so his fault at the top) by picking one bad guy. It’s weird to only think in black and white and not be able to grasp that it’s not likely a single point of failure that has taken us to the bottom of the NFL. We’ve failed all over the place, coaching, scouting, drafting, hiring, trading, you name it, we’ve done shitty and gotten worse in all aspects. If Harbaugh doesn’t get hired then it has to mean Tepper refused to give him any control even though Harbaugh was 100% wishing he’d be the Panthers coach. If Harbaugh is hired it means he is a yes man. Just copy and paste and replace Harbaugh with any candidates name and it will cover about 70% of the posts on hiring.

Lol. The poo people believe. Harbaugh’s got a legit shot at a national title and people really believe a talking head who wants hits/views/clicks/whatever? Of course Harbaugh is really focused instead on the Panthers job and Tepper has already responded no.