Loyalty4Life

I don't think Evero is stomping his feet or will be a problem even if it's true that he would rather be able to pick his next job this year instead of next. We don't even know if he would rather be DC of another team. This is more speculation because we have blocked him from 3 other lateral moves for DC but he has had quite a few HC interviews. A few of them were twice with the same club. This also happens a lot in the corporate world outside of the NFL if you are under contract with a company and are considered an asset. Evero strikes me as the type of guy that doesn't waste time with things he can't control or negative emotions that don't further him in his goals or doing his job well. He could very well be extremely happy with staying as the defense has a lot of talent and we'll add a few more pieces. Year two with talent could be a better position to be in that a new DC of another team where he starts all over and has to install his system. We don't know his feelings and I expect he will not tell us. We may get a "I'm going to always give my best in whatever opportunity is in front of me" and I think he'll coach that way no matter his true feelings.

And then there was one. With the Baltimore DC, Mike McDonald becomeing the HC of the Seahawks that only leaves the Commanders. Ejiro Evero is not interview at all with the Commanders. A lot of rumors saying Quinn and Vrabel is still out there. Unless something drastic happens we get to keep the part of the Panthers that looked pretty good last year. I really like Evero a lot. Very professional. Seems to raise above all the drama last year on offense. I also really liked the way we played down the stretch and how tough and physical they were. Also, note that we had a ton of injuries all over the defense were never at full strength for almost the entire year. While I would not have had too big a problem if we wanted to fire everyone I think it'll be a great help to first year HC Canales that he pretty much doesn't have to do very much in regards to the defense. He can focus on retooling the dumpster fire of an offense. Evero is stability and that is something every other unit can lean on. I expect in his second year Evero will be even better. Due to the rules of hiring minority coaches. If Evero coaches 2 years and leaves for a HC job, we get 2, 3rd round draft pics as compensation. That is another huge plus. Already starting to get a little hyped about next year. Keep pounding.

Capers is the mentor of Evero. He'll go where he goes. I like Pete Carroll alot but I don't like a man's past boss coming in to work for him.

Hopefully, he's reading the huddle and listening to us.

Mechanics, yes. Height, frame and weight, despite all the worry, turned out to not be the problem everyone was so worried about. Lord knows the guy can take a hit and pop right back up. His dropback is messed up as he does bounce up on his toes but he also has a great ability to quickly snap his footwork into the correct position plus he's got the Russel Wilson baseball / shortstop ability to make off kilter throws. Pro and cons to both.

The upside is still too good with Horn despite the injuries. When he's on the field he's fantastic but I understand that's the problem. I'd rather bet on a man with his level of talent to get healthy a million times over an extra low round draft pick. Extending him will be the bigger decision. All depends on what his market value is or what he thinks he should get.

We don't but I think Morgan does and if there is one thing I like about Dan, it's the culture I think he'll build as the man in charge. Ex-Panther great, played the game, tough as hell, been around the block with different teams. But I won't cry over a clean slate either. There are advantages to that as well but it would all depend on who we get. I like what we have enough not to trade it for the mystery prize.

That is exactly my thinking but I also think people do tune in for the commentators sometimes. If not, then why is the Manning cast so popular. Why did everyone have so much to say about Mick Mixon? With the NFL and most popular things, you're going to have a certain diehard fan that it won't make a different to but the casual fans or new fans it can make a difference and even if it's only a few percent, that's a lot of money.

I can't definitely see your points and this isn't a hill I'd put a huge fight up against. Last year I don't remember hearing much of anything negative about the defense except for a lot of injuries and of course the Burns drama but that type of drama is par for the course. I think the defensive culture is pretty good. Those guys were playing tough as hell the last few games right to the very end. As bad as it got on the other side of the ball I think that says a lot about Evero and the culture he's pushing. It's highly possible, maybe even probably, he gets the HC job in Seattle so all of this could be a moot point by next week. There is no such thing as a clean slate. I'm more of a cut out the cancerous parts and I don't like throwing out babies.

I do not agree with that assessment at all. Bryce has his share of problems with foot work, confidence, ball placement, holding the ball too long as well as other areas. Our primary reasons for sucking last year in order are: Guards and Icky. Nine different guards started. Icky gave up double digit sacks. Coaching - Franks system, playcalling and too many chefs. WR - No one on one play makers that could get open based on individual skill set.

Understood. Worth it. Give Canales a big break as a first time HC and actually gives us some stability. Defense is currently a ship that doesn't need to be righted. Mostly needs to get healthy. With all the other crap we are trying to recover from I think it's a huuuge boost to have Evero running everything defense. Allows us to eat the elephant is much smaller bites. And there is always the chance he ends up resigning.

I agree 100%. We should draft a QB in the 7th round every year just in case.

The same skill set that was talked about non stop during the draft process. It's hard to tell how sweet the chocolate is if it's covered in poo. I fully admit Bryce could be a bust but he could also be a franchise QB. I loved the flashes I saw last year. We literally has Baker the year before last and he was awful. Then he hooked up with Canales and looked like a starting QB in the NFL. We hired that same guy so I'm excited about what he can do with Bryce.

He's a top rated DC and future HC. Allows Canales to focus on offense and a easier transition. We get 2 third round picks if he becomes a HC next year. He's highly professional so he will fit in. Defense doesn't have to start over again.

I have a good friend who is lifelong Browns fan. Ride or die. He's asking me about Dorsey. What should I tell him.

Whoa, whoa, only knee jerk reactions allowed. Don't bring history or logic into this barren wasteland.

We are modeling ourselves after San Fran's or Phillys front office structure.

No QB outside the top 10 is going to give you remotely the upside that Bryce will. Bryce has a great skill set and gives us the best chance to find an elite and franchise QB. Why is it so hard to see if the whole coaching staff was dysfunctional and the entire team was horrible at almost every offensive position that we do NOT know if Bryce can be that guy or not. No one knows. I don't know. You don't know. Moton and Chubba are almost literally the only two guys on offense that played average or better. Judging anything about this entire team based on this year is just plain stupid.

When you lose a lot in any business this is the result. Trying to create a super staff ended up having no leadership. From everything I've read Dan Morgan is not a Yes man. We did the keep the old coach in Ron. College coach with complete control with Rhule. Then everyone shares and takes the best ideas with Frank and Fitterer. Now, I hope, we are doing the more traditional GM has the final say on football matters. And before you say Tepper has already said the GM and Coach report to him I think that is the ultimate case with all teams.

Rhule had roster control and a 7 year deal. Frank got the job in many respects because he sold Tepper on his ability to build a super coaching staff (with Teps money). Now, Tepper hires Morgan. Morgan hires Canales. The first name for OC interviews is Bucs WR coach Idzik, whom worked with him in Tampa Bay and Seattle.

Didn't this news "break" like a week ago? We interviewed him a few years ago when we interviewed Fitterer. Then we interviewed him again this go around. He's into analytics, has an assload of experience with the Chiefs. Did Mahomes contract. Considered KC's lead contract negotiator. He'll replace Suleiman who we let go last week.

And the first response is someone telling me the sky is falling. That nothing could be worse. That this is exactly like hiring a fan off the street. That a random guy on a message board is more qualified then a person that has been in coaching for 20 years, 14 of which have been in the NFL. Yes, I know see the error of my ways. I'm going to write Tepper a strongly worded letter right now asking how he could have missed hiring Philit99 as he is objectively better and more qualified.

Every time I come here it's takes less and less time to get triggered. Hard to weed through the Debbie Downers, idiots and people with a full time Eeyor complex. I'm an optimistic, glass half full type of dude and I know everyone isn't like that but damn. No matter what happens the Huddle reacts like the somebody just took a giant dump on their dog that just died in their mothers arms while babies are being beaten in the street. Jesus, this lot is miserable.

I bet they brought in Vrabel as a potential DC if someone hired Evero. Not everyone who interviews for a position is really interviewing for that position. That goes for GM too as I think we are going to see with Tilis being hired as the cap guy even though we've repeatedly interviewed him for GM.

No one knows the formula to win in the NFL. There are a number of things that give you a much higher percentage or chance. You need to have good/great players, coaches, staff, etc and then you have to throw it all together and have it fit. That is one thing I love about the NFL. It's the ultimate team game and their is so much parity any team can go from horrible to playoffs in a single year. With that being said it's impossible to consistently pick the players or coaches that are going to be suck, be average or be a huge piece that lifts and works with the rest and with so many parts it extremely difficult to turn or change that large a ship. Who thought Green Bay and the Texans would be in the playoffs and who also thought they absolutely roll the Browns and Dallas. Tepper could have been frozen in carbonite and Rhule and Reich would have not fared much better than they did. People want to act like analytics are just too subjective. Well, so are decisions based on your experience or gut feelings. Everyone is bitching because we are going on year 6 with way too many decisions that ended up being horrible in hindsight. All I try to do is root for the team and love and hope the next combination turns out to be a winning one.