CanadianCat

EVERYWHERE in the news it was Young #1. How many places had CJ #1? And before you go say 'I had him number #1'... well then maybe all those people should be working in the league and not just posting to an online forum... You guys exhaust me.

This is why I like the idea of John H. coaching our team. He has a proven track record and doesnt need to prove anything to anyone. One of the few potential candidates that has his own brass balls to match Tepper.

You guys love revisionist history.

Yeah CJ always was talked about having good arm talent. But that doesnt change what people said about it being concerning that he only had 1 good college game last year. Its fair to see how they are performing in the NFL and saying that CJ is better. But its not fair to forget all the concerns people had about him going into the draft. That was what the pick was based on - not the current NFL results.

I can own it. I wanted Bryce. The ONLY knock on Bryce was his size and he proved he can play at his size. Outside of that he elevated players around him and played very well for consecutive seasons. CJ had way more question marks. Being that he didnt have a great final season out side of 1 game and that he would not adjust well to the speed of the NFL game give his all pro WR's he played with. These were the facts coming into the draft. Young was the #1 on basically every media board. Us drafting him was not a reach or a stretch. If we had CJ right now the results would be the same but the discussion would be that he doesnt know what NFL open looks like and can only play with all stars around him. I hate that this board has turned into what is has. People here 100% forget or chose to revise history with what the draft talk was about.

Was it?... that sure was not what all the talk was about back then. Also Cam had not been playing well in the previous 2 seasons.

People forget things fast here... Horn vs Surtain was a 1a / 1b argument which basically came down to style. Horn's injuries are unlucky. Even when it was the Horn draft, people here WOULD HAVE BEEN PISSED if we drafted a LB as the entire league was moving away from LB's being high draft picks. The 2022 LT discussion didnt include Cross at the top of the draft, it was Ickey vs Neal. I know a lot of people LOVE to rehash the draft as time goes on, but they need to remember the discussion at the time.

People forget that Cam wanted a new big contract and had not been playing well in the previous seasons. The common feeling here at the time was that he was not worth the money. People wanted him to play out the final year of his contract and he didnt want to.

This is a dumb thread.

I mean in Madden I can completely change schemes and it doesn't impact my players performance... maybe thats what they assumed.....

As a land developer 'sprawl' is a mixed word. Sprawl is usually referred in a negative way as it insinuates things being spread out and being ineffective. But I would argue that most citys that are not land locked against a mountain or ocean need to accept sprawl because people dont want to build up. A land planners wet dream would be to have an entire city only take up 1 square mile and be 1 mile in elevation but thats not the reality for most cities in North America.

He does foot pics on OF.

Im all for starting rookie QB's to get that learning curve out of the way and take advantage of the rookie wages.. but at this point we have to sit him the rest of the year. We cannot afford him to get hurt at the end of this season, impacting the start of next when we WILL have a new scheme and coaching staff.. I think this is officially a worse year then the 'Pickles' year.. and I watched ALL those games.

I hope the oline dominates this weekend just for the comedic factor.

Why are we even debating this.. This would never be allowed just by rules of the salary cap. Andrew Brandt did a podcast talking about how dumb of an idea this is.. if you want to get into depth of that I suggest you listen to it.

At least half of this board cannot afford a game ticket, nevermind ownership of a team.

I think we would be having a different conversation if our WR's caught some of the deep passes that Young threw as well..

I honestly think this all boils down to the massive regression of the oline. We left last season thinking that would be a strength going in to the season. So the entire scheme was built on that assumption.

Bryce has proven he can be a winner. Literally everyone else on the team has not. Im finally ok with firing all the coaching staff and the GM and rebuilding this thing around Bryce... like we have a choice anyway..

I dont think the offensive philosophy behind the signing was a bad one. I think the idea was to be able to play a spread offence and let Bryce be the distributor of the ball. This I believe was built on the believe that the oline would continue as it finished last year, which was a strength of the team. The oline is in shambles and thus there is zero time to throw. Coupled by the fact that the WR's cannot get seperation we have what we are watching. Its made worse by the fact that even we take deep shots, the WR's tend to breakoff their routes early because they know the pressure that gets to Bryce, which is why we have seen over thrown balls on deep shots often. Bryce us throwing the ball to where they should be.. Overall its a mess. Its really hard to watch.. I'll continue to watch but its not an enjoyable experience..

Probably just dreaming at this point but I would love to see #88 start getting snaps in place of Chark.

Slow down there.. hes not calling him Luke, but he is saying that was a Luke(esk) type performance... which is was.

your a satly MFer. Like all the time.

As Foxy would say.. "it is what it is"

If people are freaking out now, I cannot imagine this place when Young signs his second deal. We haven't had to pay QB's for a while.