panthers55

Have you ever played competitive sports at any level? From your responses the answer appears to be no. Truth is you can blame our fans for that. Booing your own guy 2 games into his rookie year. When they interviewed Derek Carr he said he couldn't believe the fans were booing in his first home start. He noted that fans have no idea how hard it is to play QB.

Keep going. I said a lot of things including what I said I did. Why do you get pleasure out of trying to discredit others? Low self- esteem and feelings of inadequacy which you think makes you look better at the expense of others?

Looking forward to seeing Andy play. Bryce can use the time to regroup and regain his confidence which you can see he has lost a bit and he looks tentative and won't chuck it down the field. Sitting should help him take stock and get ready to jump back in in a few weeks. I think the staff doesn't want to David Carr him and this is one way to help him without making it obvious there is an issue

Looking forward to seeing Andy play. Bryce can use the time to regroup and regain his confidence which you can see he has lost a bit and he looks tentative and won't chuck it down the field. Sitting should help him take stock and get ready to jump back in in a few weeks. I think the staff doesn't want to David Carr him and this is one way to help him without making it obvious there is an issue

Totally disagree. Young is going to be fantastic in a few years. Did you see Manning play as a rookie? I did and it was ugly. Guys like Burns, Moton, Chinn, Hekker among others are great players. We have a bunch of upcoming guys with great ability who are learning and growing. Only a casual angry fan would throw in the towel after 2 games. Did you expect him to do what no other rookie qb has done in a decade which was win his first start or look great immediately? I said months ago that we would likely start slow and could lose our first several games but by the end of the year we will be a tough out and could challenge for the division (assuming that no one wins more than 10 games). I still hold to that view. Have I been disappointed through 2 games? Absolutely, but what I am watching for is game to game improvement and we surely played a better game Monday versus Atlanta. This staff is a good staff based on their previous performances and once they gel will help us really get things rolling. I am not sad Andy is starting. I suspect Bryce could use a rest and watch the veteran play while he watches and see what happens on the field. I have heard a number of QBs say it helped them to play, sit and then play again. I am not looking at this as 4 years of sucking. I look at this as 2 games into a new improved regime where Tepper finally did something right. I expected a bunch of whining and bitching from huddle members as that is what they do But I have to admit I didn't expect this much after 2 games. I stayed away for 48 hours to hope the whining would die down but it seems to be a Neverending story around here.

41 and you are worried about seeing us not win a Superbowl. In my screen name the 55 stands for the year I was born. I have been here since the start. I couldn't afford to go to Superbowl 38 but did go to Superbowl 50 and took the whole family. I really did think we were going to win. I said I hoped it wouldn't take another 12 years but it looks like it might. So I can bitch and worry about the Panthers not winning a Superbowl in my lifetime. Wait another 25 or 30 years and if we haven't win one by then, you are justified in worrying and bitching. Just saying..... For the record I think we will be in a superbowl in 5 years and hopefully we finally win one. I plan to be there when we do.

If scenario 1 occurs then the staff have to decide who to play and it could blow back on starting Young if he goes out and we keep losing. Might mean he sits for a while like Mahomes and many others gave. Scenarios 2 and 3 would indicate Dalton sucks and actually increase the chances Young starts the next game. But honestly the notion the staff sucks is not going to fly with most knowledgeable folks who thought we would struggle out of the gate with new staff and a rookie qb.

Good writeup. It confirms what seemed clear was that Bryce got rattled and those interceptions did play tricks with his head. He became hesitant when he needed to throw on timing, and chucked the ball out of bounds in the direction of a covered receiver when his first read got shut down. I expect him to be improved against a potentially tougher defense.

You are ignoring the obvious though. If you listened to the announcers talking football when they werent slobbobbing the Falcons and Bijan, they made the point that Atlanta's defense was predicated on keeping everything short and in front of them. So Bryce was taking what the defense was giving him. He isn't good enough yet to dictate to the defense so of course everything was short or incomplete. Expect the Saints to do the same while bringing more pressure. Hopefully we work on more intermediate to long passes while cleaning up the shorter stuff over the middle.

So let's talk about playcalling. How much was gameplanning, poor adjusting, poor execution, or something else. You see the play run not the play called or what adjustments were or were not made. Were the protections good or not? How many plays like that first 4th and 1 were intentionally called right over the left to see what we are capable of rather than trying to score using a finesse play which stood a better chance of success. The playcalling wasn't adequate and the execution was poor. But I am withholding judgement until I see some more games.

I think it is obvious to folks who frequent this site that certain posters beat the same old dead horses and have players or coaches they don't like and constantly complain about. So I don't need to point out what is clear to anyone paying attention.

Didn't mention you. Feeling guilty??

Seems like everyone with an ax to grind are coming out of the woodwork to complain about their same old issues legitimate or not. While I dont have an agenda, I am always glad to give my 2 cwntssolicited or otherwise .What I saw was a quarterback who started off pretty well but after those picks became tentative and held the ball. Sometimes we had folks open early but Bryce held the ball hoping for more seperation which in fact gVe defenders time to recover. On those long balls Young was putting them way out in front rather than giving them air for the receiver to catch up if necessary. Totally understandable for a rookie qb playing in his first action. Hopefully he will bounce back and play better on Monday night. I have heard it said that teams make the most progress between week 1 and 2. We will see shortly.

Again the myth is that the cap really limits you when it is actually judging talent poorly and guaranteeing too much money so you end up with a ton of dead cap money dumping or trading players, injuries or guys that retire prematurely. Why do some teams stay in cap hell while others dont??

They aren't saying anything because they have said repeatedly that you need to ask Burns and he isn't talking. Burns isn't going to hold out but if he says that up front regardless of the negotiations he just gave away a huge bargaining chip and he isn't doing that. The Wednesday deadline was the point at which he had to report if he was going to play this weekend.

Why practice yesterday and today if he isn't planning to play??

This was yesterday when he practiced. https://www.panthers.com/news/notebook-brian-burns-hasn-t-made-himself-a-distraction-frank-reich-says#:~:text=CHARLOTTE – Outside linebacker Brian Burns,termed a "personal matter." You keep showing you don't have a clue

In order to play against Atlanta he would have to show up by Wednesday. I read he was at practice Wednesday. I think actions speak louder than words. Did you hear he wasn't at practice Wednesday or today?

Here are two. I have lots more but this was in the last week. https://clutchpoints.com/panthers-news-brian-burns-stance-on-not-holding-out-amid-contract-negotiation-will-excite-carolina-fans https://www.espn.com/blog/carolina-panthers/post/_/id/37896/ive-got-to-be-here-why-panthers-brian-burns-isnt-holding-out

Look at every interview he has done in the last month.

Burns is back at practice and says he plans to play. Why pages after pages about what he will lose when he has been at practice all this week?

Not saying there isn't a limit just saying that the cap isn't the big issue you and others make it out to be. Again we all agree there is a salary cap, you don't need to say it over and over when everyone agrees there is a number that goes up most every year. The myth is that is can't be easily manipulated to the point that it doesn't stop you from getting the players you want or kills your roster if you pay someone a premium like Burns which is what the whole conversation is about. Or that you can't spend more cash in a year than the cap allows So once again there is a cap but it is is not the impediment you and others suggest. And given it can be manipulated so easily, it really isn't a problem for creative cap managers I would hardly use Gettleman as an example of what to do. He was largely a disaster with his fruit basket turnover every year.

One thought. Maybe we should wait to see what the actual contract says before whining about how much he is getting. If it is Bosa money then bitch, otherwise it is rather premature.

Thanks for the validation. If you think it is wrong I must be on the right track.