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pulling off ladd and leggette would be legit.

wouldn't be any kind of secret. thing is i wouldn't hate it. if he's as good as we think....it wouldn't matter where we draft him as long as we get him. and it's entirely possible that he would be gone by 39 if we tried coming back around for him. WRs gonna be flying off the board. get him and pearsall or malik washington and we're good.

agreed. it might be inconvenient, but that's not a reason to not draft a guy you think could be a stud.

get both.

agreed. i think i heard something about thomas being a good blocker. he might be, but you wouldn't know. keep tremble...churn the rest of the group. draft 2 WRs and 2 TEs and a center and call it a weekend.

he's excited?

hey, the kid could be an absolute stud.

i'm hoping that the fact they have met with at least Wiley means that they are looking in that direction. they could have other plans, though. maybe it's just they are looking at him as a tall pass catcher.

TE group is stable? lol bar must be low.

wouldn't argue that. i would argue that here isn't the place where that would happen.

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i still remember my first time being introduced to him and his music back in late 1988. life changing experience.

if you aren't an seeking attention QB posting your workouts then you're a bum. i think that's the message here. QBs have an obligation to post their workouts or we have no choice but to assume they aren't doing anything. lazy logic.

well, that's the thing that they said they were doing...that' it's not about the X's and O's first, it's about getting them dawgs and then figuring the X and O stuff later. and i don't think they/we were have the same conversations with reich & co. they were too busy talking about how clever they were for not discussing the #1 pick with each other and waiting till the last moment to talk about it so they could be sure they were all on the same page. i mean they and everyone else were singularly focused no that #1 pick. looking back there was no real meat to anything they said. it was fluff. all of it. you might think that canales and morgan is a lot of fluff, but reich had nothing but that going on. fitt didn't know anything either. you never got a sense from him that he was a football guy. he carried himself like a good used car salesman.

i really hope he proves us all wrong. would be nice not to have to worry about that for a while.

yeah this year i hope they overload on offensive playmakers. that needs to be the #1 priority. add a couple playmakers on defense maybe, but if you can get an offensive playmaker you get him.

true to all that. i mean these draftniks are more educated than the OG draftnik Kiper was when he first started and some of them have been around the game a good bit of their lives, but they are limited by essentially being solo acts with limited funds tying to hit a lot of players over the course of the year. Some are able to this all year, but still they are just one person and limited to what they can do compared to regional scouts funded by pro teams. Teams are just plain able to cover more terrain and more players, plus they are able to spend more time on it and collaborate with more people. Trips to schools don't have to come out of pocket. They will also have more access to coaches, teammates, families, etc. They look at more tape (as a collective) and hit more games. i am grateful for the draftniks and am glad that it has become the industry it has and i think they get a good bit of things right, but as good as some of them are, i just don't think they have the resources or intel (especially team intel) that regional scouts employed by the teams have. When we grade picks, we are basing those grades on a culmination of work less informed parties have done.

you're thinking the same thing i am, and not just by these two. he's one of the top 4 slot(ish) guys i hope we get...with Ladd, Corley, and Malik Washington. Give me any of those 4 and a X(ish) type WR who can stretch the field and i think we're good. oh...and a TE. and another RB who is a thumper and decent receiving option.

i'd honestly be shocked if Baker makes it out of the 3rd round. He's one of those guys that hasn't had a lot said about in the media, but teams are very well aware of and aren't discussing. Pearsall is kind of one of those guys...i mean the media has talked about him some, but teams aren't talking about him either, even though they are definitely interested. Pearsall might not make it out of the 2nd round.

if the guy calling the shots won't listen to anyone else because he thinks he knows more than anyone else, it's hard to convince him of anything. from the way it sounds, there wasn't much communication going on between scouting department and coaches until this year. they are doing things differently this year. doesn't matter that some of the players are the same because the big dogs at the top calling the shots the last few years aren't there (except maybe tepper and he's being quiet). that, on it's own, is enough for some optimism. the problem wasn't the scouts. it was the decision makers.

fitt and rhule thought they knew more than anyone else. they tried to be clever and had an angle on things that no one else had. hurney only ever paid attention to who would be there in the first round and just winged it from there. maybe if we listened to our own scouts we might have had better picks. those guys weren't about to listen to anyone. they were, in essence, speculators and wild guessers.