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the way i read it wasn't houston backing out. they and the bears couldn't agree on what the texans would give the bears and just couldn't get thing s worked out. meanwhile the clock was ticking and the panthers offered something else and the bears jumped. we both wanted young. we were willing to pay more for it. that's what it comes down to. stroud was a consolation prize that ended up being better than they or anyone else could have expected. meanwhile young did worse than anyone thought possible, of course his situation was worse than anyone thought possible while the texans situation ended up being better than anyone expected.

or that the texans couldn't match the offer we were making the bears.

is craig carton bryce's nolan nawrocki?

we're not going to get an extension done because he wants too much money and he probably thinks he can get it somewhere else...and he wouldn't be wrong. but we'd be wrong in giving him that kind of money because he's just not worth it. if he has he hasn't shown it. he's not the kind of player the team is supposedly looking for now. he's soft. talented, but soft. he'll show up every once in a while, but all it will do is piss you off and make you ask why we don't see that more often. the answer is he just doesn't care and i don't want to bother with him. whether we have a pass rush or not next year doesn't depend on burns. he hasn't been the factor he's hyped up to be. he's just a wannabe spiderman.

i think this right here is major fug up #2 with burns. we missed out on 2 incredible opportunities to trade him that could have really helped us this year under the delusion that he was invaluable to this team.

as much as it might pain us to not get anything for burns...i really just want to separate ourselves from as many mistakes as possible. whatever should have or needed to be done with burns, should have and needed to be done at least a year ago. we don't need him hanging over our heads like this. we have too much residual from fitt that needs excised from the organization as it is. he isn't going to make us competitive. all he's going to do is clog up cap space.

I'd kind of given up on Bryce. Not really a believer, but poo like this is gonna have me rooting for him, that and the fact that he's the panthers QB.

He sounds like a putz. Prove him wrong, little man.

Who's Craig carton?

I would like to trust Morgan in this. If he's honest about only having Dawgs on this team, Burns will be gone one day or another. If he's just playing lip service, Burns will be back getting paid big time. This is the test.

Pep wanted out and he was being accused of taking a lot of plays off (but even with that he was twice the baller burns is). Letting him go for nothing hurt, but it was inevitable. The team wanted him to be something he didn't want to be and he wanted to experience life and sports away from north Carolina. I seriously just don't want to mess with burns. All he's ever done is pretend to be a superhero/elite player. If we can get something for him, fine. I just don't want the risk that comes along with the tag

Little curious to see where these guys were all drafted.

Tag would be $23mil. Better than 30, but still way more than we should be paying him and I just don't want to risk getting stuck with him for that amount.

I just don't want to mess with it. Tag and trade sounds like a good idea ...but what if you can't get a trade partner then you're stuck. I mean it's not like it would be as hard as letting pep go because he was such a part of our identity. Burns ain't no pep. Just cut bait. Not worth the cost or risk of cost.

Not a dawg.

oh absolutely. no QB can sustain that for very long, physically or psychologically. his size doesn't have much to do with it. the abuse from defenses does. they HAVE to do a better job of protecting him and putting him in better situations.

agreed to all of that. the two things that most thought would be an issue, supposed limited field of vision due to height and him snapping like a twig because he's so tiny. he proved tougher than most thought, especially after getting sacked and hit as much as he did. durability isn't a concern anymore for him than anyone else. field of vision issue...no QB looks over their OL. I heard a coupe QBs talk about that. average OL, like you said, is 6'4...plus a helmet on those big heads...how tall would a QB have to be to consistently look over his OL? 6'6? 6'7? It's all about finding lanes and knowing where everyone is supposed to be. he had his issues for sure, but the big ones weren't the issues that most talked about.

same here. in doing mocks i find myself grabbing him if he's there. hard to pass up. i hate missing out on one of the top 10 WRs (which i think we'll be able to grab @33) but if we can find ourselves another 10 year OC, i'd be stoked.

@Verge how many and which WRs you think will be going in the first? just curious. i'm thinking as many as 5-6. hard to imagine that there would be more than that but as good as this class is it could happen. the fact that it's also so deep makes me think that some teams will feel good about waiting a little to get one they like.

Seems awake to me.

I've seen one where Bowers went #2 and then a few mocks later I see him available at 33. Most players they are pretty consistent with but there's a few that really get bounced around.

I like it, especially the direction. Got to say I'm more excited about the 2nd WR than the first. I just feel like there's better WR options at 33. Could be that I just need to watch some more of him, but I have a feeling you'd be able to swap him fairly easily with a earlier iOL at 33 then swing back around to get Washington with the next pick. I love Corley, though.

I really like this one.