Kelvin Benjamin - The Right Pick

[panthers55]

Ive read the opposite, slow out the gate but is able to pick up speed after getting some head of steam. 

Slow out of the gate means he doesn't have a quick first step, but that doesn't make him slow.  It is often how quick you are out of the break that gets separation not how fast you can run straight forward.  Plus as you say he can pull away from you as he gains momentum.  he is ideally suited to a vertical passing game and he only has really 2 years of college ball so imagine where he will be in a year or two.

[Panthro]

Good one, chunky. I'm entitled to my opinion. Others share it. This isn't me with nothing better to do on a Friday morning. This has been my opinion since we started making threads about him. 

 

Just to be clear - I'm not rooting for him to fail and obviously I will support the guy now.  

 

You are not free from criticism on your opinion.

[4Corners]

Why did teams pass on Brady or any other great talent past the 1st round? 

 

When you say someone is a reach you need to be able to say why, not just that people past on him. 

 

Robinson is not a first round WR. All 32 NFL teams agree w/ me. 

[4Corners]

to be fair - we did struggle punching it in the endzone last year when we close to the GL. Hopefully KB will be able to do some of the dirty work in there and get us some points. That was probably why they drafted him. 

[EMSMedic79]

The cooler part a out this pick is that fact that he's been a Panthers fan and has wanted to come here for a while!

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[MedellinHeel]

Robinson is not a first round WR. All 32 NFL teams agree w/ me. 

 

By literally definition yes, but we are not talking (i am not) literal definition. 

 

Every team would say Brady and Sherman are 1st round talents. 

 

When you say someone is a reach but then cant say why is pretty weak imo. 

[Blackmagic]

I wasn't Benjamin's biggest fan, but I understand the pick.

 

Lee was the other first round talent WR, but he's injury prone and drops the ball a lot ( 12,9%, i read somewhere). Benjamin has the same problem, but Lee has worse hands. There was no first round OT left.

 

Benjamin can help in the redone, because we didn't have a WR who was high point catcher, but now with Benjamin and Cotchery we will score more TD passes. Just look at Dalton's TD's in the redzone, most of the the time, he just throws it up for his tall WR's.

[panthers55]

Jarrett looked good in college.....but he was still slow in college off the line. Jarrett had near identical size heading into the NFL.

KB's speed comes after he is downfield. He is slow off the line and out of the gate.

I do think he is perhaps more physical.....so hopefully that will be the key difference into him being able to be successful here.

The difference is that Jarrett was 20 lbs smaller and not physical as you note..  He didn't have a great catching radius nor was he great after the catch.  They are not similar at all other than being both tall.  And lets be real here, slow is relative.  4.6 isn't exactly slow.  Top receivers at 4.4 are literally the blink of an eye faster.  Sometimes a tenth or two is made out to be more than it is.  Particularly when talking about football speed versus running in shorts on a track.  I wonder if Jarrett has Cam to throw to him whether he would have been better.

[CRA]

Cam is going to throw 40 TDs this year

Need time and protection for that....he has a C at this point

[panthers55]

Robinson is not a first round WR. All 32 NFL teams agree w/ me. 

That logic really doesn't apply.  If we thought that Robinson was the guy we wanted and that he wouldn't be there at 60 then you pull the trigger at 28 or be prepared for him to not be there at 60.  That was the same issue with Robinson.  Several drafts had him going in the 30s or even 40s but he would be clearly gone by the time we picked up again and you can assume you can move up in the draft so you pick who you want at your pick regardless of whether some say it is a reach or not.  Obviously Gettleman likes Benjamin the most.

[4Corners]

By literally definition yes, but we are not talking (i am not) literal definition. 

 

Every team would say Brady and Sherman are 1st round talents. 

 

When you say someone is a reach but then cant say why is pretty weak imo. 

 

Robinson was a reach because he is not a first round WR. Like I said, all 32 NFL teams agreed with me. Would't surprise me to see him slip to the late second or third. You probably didn't even know who this guy was until like a week ago. 

[panthers55]

That logic really doesn't apply.  If we thought that Robinson was the guy we wanted and that he wouldn't be there at 60 then you pull the trigger at 28 or be prepared for him to not be there at 60.  That was the same issue with Benjamin.  Several drafts had him going in the 30s or even 40s but he would be clearly gone by the time we picked up again and you can assume you can move up in the draft so you pick who you want at your pick regardless of whether some say it is a reach or not.  Obviously Gettleman likes Benjamin the most.

Couldn't edit prior post so I quoted again.

[xclr82xtc]

robinson was not a first round receiver in this draft.. but he could of easliy been a top wr pick in earlier years.   I still like the benjamin pick best. cams ability to extend plays gives him time to build momentum and get down field.  hes a bigger threat than robinson (litterally)    at this point, we got a good first.. lets focus on getting some oline help. and a corner.

[4Corners]

That logic really doesn't apply.  If we thought that Robinson was the guy we wanted and that he wouldn't be there at 60 then you pull the trigger at 28 or be prepared for him to not be there at 60.  That was the same issue with Robinson.  Several drafts had him going in the 30s or even 40s but he would be clearly gone by the time we picked up again and you can assume you can move up in the draft so you pick who you want at your pick regardless of whether some say it is a reach or not.  Obviously Gettleman likes Benjamin the most.

This logic most certainly does apply. You and that other guy are speaking hypothetically. You are also quoting irrelevant mock drafts that have ZERO influence on the actual draft. Obviously no NFL teams had him in their first round plans or they would have drafted him. I'm not knocking the dude I just would have been a little bewildered if we drafted him in the first. Wouldn't have the pick if he's there when we choose in the 2nd.