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A closer look at Bersin preseason stats

Jeremy Igo

By Jeremy Igo,
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Yeah like even low round draft picks 99.99% of the time don't pan out...... Not like you'd ever get a star player from 6th round and lower...... /endsarcasm

There are tons of great players that were said to be bad but did great when their number was called. Some guys just need development or a chance and Bersin I think could be one of those kinds of players. Everybody that gets a chance in the NFL are there for a reason and you can't count anyone out of contention.

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I said 99.99%.  Btw, can you name me any recent UDFAs that are star players?  You can count them on one hand (without using all your fingers).  I just think the Huddle likes to build these guys up like they will be all pros.  The reality is Bersin could be a solid contributor but he will never be a #1 or likely #2 for any team in the NFL.  That doesn't mean I don't like him and I'm not pulling for him.  But I think a reality check is in order before the Huddle goes crazy with expectations for a guy who has done pretty much nothing in his pro career so far.

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Bersin has earned the 2 spot...besides, moving him to 2 puts Avant and Cotchery in the 3 and 4 spots, where they are better suited. Neither of those two guys should be facing the #2CB for opposing defenses...they just won't make a difference in that position.

I don't think 5 catches earns a starting spot. I think making the roster would be a big step for the guy.

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Have we ever had a preseason with the production at WR of Bersin, King and KB? Add Swoll Bones and the answer is never!

Seriously?  Just go back to last year and David Gettis had 11 receptions and 164 yards.  Did you forget Taye Biddle and Drew Carter?   Dominique Thompson and Dwayne Jarrett? It seems your sense of history is only about 2 months long.

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I said 99.99%. Btw, can you name me any recent UDFAs that are star players? You can count them on one hand (without using all your fingers). I just think the Huddle likes to build these guys up like they will be all pros. The reality is Bersin could be a solid contributor but he will never be a #1 or likely #2 for any team in the NFL. That doesn't mean I don't like him and I'm not pulling for him. But I think a reality check is in order before the Huddle goes crazy with expectations for a guy who has done pretty much nothing in his pro career so far.

Ok I'll bite

QB: Tony Romo, Kurt Warner, Jake Delhomme, Jeff Garcia, Warren Moon

RB: Arian Foster, Pierre Thomas, Mike Tolbert, Danny Woodhead, Priest Holmes, Joe Perry,

WR: Wes Welker, Victor Cruz, Danny Amendola, Rod Smith

TE: Antonio Gates

OL: Larry Little, Jeff Saturday, Brian Waters

DE:

LB: James Harrison, Cameron Wake, London Fletcher

DB: Willie Brown, Emlen Tunnell

DT: John Randle

There's more but I'm tired of typing this on my phone.

I also added older ones too because the history of the NFL counts even if you'd like to ignore it.

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Ok I'll bite

QB: Tony Romo, Kurt Warner, Jake Delhomme, Jeff Garcia, Warren Moon

RB: Arian Foster, Pierre Thomas, Mike Tolbert, Danny Woodhead, Priest Holmes, Joe Perry,

WR: Wes Welker, Victor Cruz, Danny Amendola, Rod Smith

TE: Antonio Gates

OL: Larry Little, Jeff Saturday, Brian Waters

DE:

LB: James Harrison, Cameron Wake, London Fletcher

DB: Willie Brown, Emlen Tunnell

DT: John Randle

There's more but I'm tired of typing this on my phone.

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True, but that probably covers, what? Twenty years of undrafted free agents? The 99% number he gave may not be that far off.

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True, but that probably covers, what? Twenty years of undrafted free agents? The 99% number he gave may not be that far off.

He's saying 99.99% of stars arnt UDFA. I'm saying it's not. Nothing about every player in the league because in that case there is just as few star drafted players compared to the whole league. Just judging star drafted players vs star undrafted.

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He's saying 99.99% of stars arnt UDFA. I'm saying it's not. Nothing about every player in the league because in that case there is just as few star drafted players compared to the whole league. Just judging star drafted players vs star undrafted.

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Oh yeah, then you have a good point. I was under the impression he was saying that 99% of undrafted free agents do not become star players.

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People always try to rationalize their hope with false logic.

 

Jimmy Clausen was going to put it together because Brett Favre had a bad rookie season. 

 

Haruki Nakamura was going to become a great safety because he played behind Ed Reed all those years.

 

I guarantee you there are 32 fan bases right now that think they have the next Victor Cruz.

 

Lamont Bryant was going to be Plaxico Burress.

 

A guy made a post the other day about all the teams that got blown out in the third preseason game and made the playoffs. 

 

All of it is anecdotal.

 

Arian Foster going undrafted because he made an ass of himself during the draft has no correlation with Bersin's career path.

 

What we do know is Bersin has spent the past two seasons on the practice squad. In other words, he's been out of college for three years and been cut twice.  Last year Bersin was on the scout team, Cotchery was catching touchdowns. 

 

I'm sure we will get him some reps this season and more playing time if guys get hurt, but you guys that expect him to go from practice squad to starter sound desperate. At least with the David Gettis fan club, they could point to his 2010 performances. Bersin has never even made the team before.

 

And this all comes back to people that are not satisfied with Avant and Cotchery. They are hoping for something better. I think you are undervaluing the veterans. Taye Biddle had more yards and touchdowns than Bersin in one preseason game. But it doesn't mean anything. Preseason stats don't mean anything.

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