remind me when we can finally move on from D-Will and J-Stew?

[thefuzz]

Honestly if we would have paid one of them it would not have hurt so bad but the double trouble contract was what got us. I was in favor of nether because running production comes from a line not a back.

 

Both contracts were foolish.  We paid them for a season that was in the rear view mirror.

[SmokinwithWilly]

In all seriousness I have no idea what Hurney was thinking with these long ass big money deals.

Obvious he doesn't play fantasy football. You don't take a back over 30 or in this case sign one past 30. 

[Guest]

Depends how accurate this information is, but according to Spotrac:

Deangelo

- Cap hits: 6m (2014), 6.33m (2015), 2.133m (2016), 2.133 (2017)

- Dead money: 9.75m (2014), 6.6m (2015), 2.266m (2016), 1.133m (2017)

Stewart

- Cap hits: 4.585m (2014), 8.3m (2015), 9.550m (2016), 8.250m (2017)

- Dead money: 18.185m (2014), 13.6m (2015), 7.3m (2016), 3.5m (2017)

Now I'm not one of the knowledgeable ones when it comes to contracts, but if these figures are accurate, then I suspect we are stuck with them for a while. I guess cutting Williams after this season is the more likely, unless Gettleman can work any magic with Stewart, but from the looks of it these two are here for a while longer...

That said, we could still use a high draft pick on RB like Le'Veon Bell, Giovani Bernard and start the rookie, and use Williams as backup and Stewart as third string if they don't stay healthy and become productive rushers again.

[TimTom]

Juses Crust! Do the right thing Stewart, retire after this season.

 

 

We are still on the hook for his money even if he retires.

 

Ex: Jordan Gross, I think that was a 1.5M hit when he retired.

[thefuzz]

Depends how accurate this information is, but according to Spotrac:

Deangelo

- Cap hits: 6m (2014), 6.33m (2015), 2.133m (2016), 2.133 (2017)

- Dead money: 9.75m (2014), 6.6m (2015), 2.266m (2016), 1.133m (2017)

Stewart

- Cap hits: 4.585m (2014), 8.3m (2015), 9.550m (2016), 8.250m (2017)

- Dead money: 18.185m (2014), 13.6m (2015), 7.3m (2016), 3.5m (2017)

Now I'm not one of the knowledgeable ones when it comes to contracts, but if these figures are accurate, then I suspect we are stuck with them for a while. I guess cutting Williams after this season is the more likely, unless Gettleman can work any magic with Stewart, but from the looks of it these two are here for a while longer...

That said, we could still use a high draft pick on RB like Le'Veon Bell, Giovani Bernard and start the rookie, and use Williams as backup and Stewart as third string if they don't stay healthy and become productive rushers again.

 

Nope.

 

DWill after this season, Stew after next.  Get youth, speed, health, and lower cap numbers in 2 years.

[Guest]

Nope.

DWill after this season, Stew after next. Get youth, speed, health, and lower cap numbers in 2 years.

If that's the case, then that's good news. Would be nice to see us grab an exciting RB to replace them.

[PantherFanOne]

The cap failures were only part of it.

His trades were equal failures.

How JR sat in a coma all those years and retained Hurney is a mystery.

 

1. Carolina traded their 2009 first-round selection, and its 2008 second- and fourth-round selections to Philadelphia for its 2008 first-round selection (19th overall, Carolina selected Jeff Otah)

2. Carolina traded their 2010 first-round selection to San Francisco for a 2009 second- (43rd overall; Carolina selected Everette Brown) and fourth-round selections (111th overall; Carolina selected Mike Goodson)

3. Carolina traded their 2011 second-round selection (#33 overall!) to New England for a 2010 third- (89th overall; Carolina selected Armanti Edwards)

 

 

Ouch!!!!!! Marty Hurney was certainly one brain dead mudder fugger. If we had GMan as GM all those Hurney  years, it's possible we could  be talking SuperBowl today instead of the salary cap hell we are currently in..

[frash.exe]

Everybody tilted their head when I suggested marty hurney should be fired in 2009

Imagine where we'd be if we brought in Gettleman then

[thefuzz]

Everybody tilted their head when I suggested marty hurney should be fired in 2009

Imagine where we'd be if we brought in Gettleman then

 

Not so fast cowboy.

 

I have been screaming for his head for years.  Dude had no plan for this team, treated every season like it was the only one that mattered.  I hated him as a GM.

[frash.exe]

Not so fast cowboy.

I have been screaming for his head for years. Dude had no plan for this team, treated every season like it was the only one that mattered. I hated him as a GM.

The funniest trump card people played back then was the old, "I think I'll trust Hurney's judgment over some armchair GM thank you". I was all like, "hello?! We already have an armchair GM running the team. It's him."

[thefuzz]

The funniest trump card people played back then was the old, "I think I'll trust Hurney's judgment over some armchair GM thank you". I was all like, "hello?! We already have an armchair GM running the team. It's him."

 

If I saw this pic again.....

[hdevonxz]

The fuged up thing about this is that locking them up was supposed to guarantee a productive running game for years, and I feel like it's done just the opposite, because both players are mediocre at this point

 

mediocre line mostly

[Mojo]

And yet, you're wrong. AD couldn't rush for 50 yards behind this OL. Deal with it.

We don't have AP so we'll never know. He is right though. Those two remaining healthy and performing up to the old double trouble moniker is pretty much long gone.

[Sean Payton's Vicodin]

Everybody tilted their head when I suggested marty hurney should be fired in 2009

Imagine where we'd be if we brought in Gettleman then

 

I wanted him gone the second he signed Jake to that retarded contract after he threw 5 picks in the playoffs.

 

I can't even believe he stayed after Fox left.