The Identity Of Our Offense

[KendrickPanther]

I was listening to Greg Cossel do an interview on the Mac Attack today and he was talking about the Kubiak system as if it were a biscuit recipe. All of the ingredients were clearly defined the order of operations tried and true.

 

And Jim did a great job jumping in with the important question, "what is the Identity of Mike Shula's offense?". Greg had a short pause and stumbled with his words a little before saying it's hard to answer that. The Panthers running game is part traditional with the power run and part read option. The passing attack is more Mike Martz and Air Coryell. 

 

Now these are all things we've known but to see someone with no bias towards our organization decipher that based off the film was striking to me. And the name Mike Martz rang a bell with me specifically. 

 

We all know Mike Martz as the offensive mind behind the greatest show on turf. We also know the Panthers have brought in John Ramsdell who was an assistant on those teams. Then we have Ricky Proehl who was a big part of those Rams teams.

 

So we have a traditional/read option run game combined with an Air Coryell passing attack all of this is led by a traditional power run coordinator. The Panthers are clearly aware this is a problem and they are trying to fix it by giving Shula a passing tutor in John Ramsdell. You have to admit, our passing attack has improved. We are putting up high completion numbers for good yardage and touchdowns. But we are also dysfunctional in pass protection and run blocking.

 

This begs the question. Are we tipping the defense by merging three offenses into one? Are we confusing our young offensive line by mixing offenses. If Kubiak's play book makes biscuits. Ours makes a bacon, pepper, ham, and tuna omelette. But we read the directions wrong and ended up with scrambled eggs.

 

At what point do we simplify things by running one offense with one expert? This is pro football, offensive coordinators that need help learning the passing game shouldn't even exist.

[Johnny Rockets]

Greg Cossel knows his sh*t. 

[top dawg]

You kind of lost me with all the foodstuffs, but I'm thinking that you mean we need to simplify the offense.

[L-TownCat]

mmmm....breakfast

[top dawg]

I don't care what it's called, but the important thing is that we need the ability to consistently adjust to the situation at hand on the fly.

 

Sure, Shula needs to know the general recipe, but he needs a short-order cook mentality when variations are called for. 

[Mr. Scot]

Kubiak or Coryell?

I'm assuming you meant Coryell in that first paragraph.

[top dawg]

Kubiak or Coryell?

 

Kubrell

[L-TownCat]

Sounds like our offense has acute onset schizophrenia with paranoid delusions and multiple personality disorder.

 

 

Did I mention it also has PMS? 

[CarolinaSock]

I heard the same interview. To me it sounded like the disconnect was not between the run game and passing game, but the fact that we alternate between two different running attacks. One being a base set power run game and the other a shotgun read option. He thought we should use more base set running plays based on what has worked this year.

[CarolinaSock]

Kubiak or Coryell?

I'm assuming you meant Coryell in that first paragraph.

Cossell was discussing the identity of the Baltimore offense first, Gary Kubiak's system.

[Mr. Scot]

Cossell was discussing the identity of the Baltimore offense first, Gary Kubiak's system.

Gotcha.

[Jangler]

Martz would have a field day with our offense right now....if he weren't crazy.

[ZeroZeroSeven]

I heard the same interview. To me it sounded like the disconnect was not between the run game and passing game, but the fact that we alternate between two different running attacks. One being a base set power run game and the other a shotgun read option. He thought we should use more base set running plays based on what has worked this year.

 

I would also add in we try to do too much in the passing game too.  Sometimes there's quick passes, then long developing plays with no safety for Cam.  Shula needs to hunker down call some quick passes and screens out of the two TE sets, get some misdirection going in the run game and give Cam a safety valve on long developing pass plays.  The explosive plays come when the defense is on their heels.  Our offense is inconsistent because Shula seems to be throwing darts instead of running plays that flow well together.

[PntherPryd]

Sounds like our offense has acute onset schizophrenia with paranoid delusions and multiple personality disorder.

 

 

 

is it contagious?  because I'm more worried which run defense personality is going to how up, the lions (70 yards) or the steelers (264 yards).