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Clinton Portis on WFNZ yesterday....

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Like I said...shall see. Its one thing to speak something. Entirely different manifesting it. Hell, I'm still looking for the "answer", that's "already on the roster".

 

Words are words. Gettleman's "7 second pause" is as relevant as the preseason presser about whether Cam "has proved" something.

 

The offensive line not being a priority speaks volumes.

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Anyone who has been talking about anything on offense for the last two years other than a better offensive line doesn't know anything about football.

If you believe that you have the guy at QB, then you give him a better line, and that line makes the entire offense better because the QB has time to make his receivers better, and the running backs look better with better blocking.

Adding Deshaun Jackson wouldn't have changed anything if the QB doesn't have time for a receiver to stretch the field before he has to get rid of the ball or try to escape after the line blows up in his face.

I don't remember ever reading a post you've made where you're not acting like you're smarter than everyone else and if someone has a different opinion then they have no idea what they're talking about.

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I said in another thread, if there's one thing that could be learned from this season: it's a good OL can take you far. Dallas is a prime example.

Cam with a good OL can make any WR's look good. I was more saying signing a guy like Desean since it was said that they're buddies.

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Portis was traded for Champ Bailey, at least in part because he was a bit of a head case.

Cutler wasn't allowed to walk. He was traded for a pretty good package of picks (more than he was worth, honestly).

Were he to be offered, Newton would command a bigger trade package than what the Bears gave up for Cutler.

Portis was on the radio the other day telling his story of how he was allowed to test the market by Shanahan. It came from his own mouth.
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I don't remember ever reading a post you've made where you're not acting like you're smarter than everyone else and if someone has a different opinion then they have no idea what they're talking about.

 

When was my first post (ThinkAboutIt)? This isn't the only site where anything can be said. Chris McClain's inbox at WFNZ is full of my emails about it, not that I'm posting any of them.

 

Baseless opinions are irrelevant. The fact is Gettleman has not made the Offensive line a priority. A line made up mostly of undrafted linemen is evidence of that fact.

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Words are words. Gettleman's "7 second pause" is as relevant as the preseason presser about whether Cam "has proved" something.

 

The offensive line not being a priority speaks volumes.

Look at Gettleman's pressers though.  He's fairly open/honest about what he's doing.  Think about the Smitty question, he said, "we're evaluating" when asked.  Pretty clear he wasn't shy about letting people know what he was thinking.  I almost guarantee that if he didn't think Cam was our franchise QB, he would have said, "we'll see," or "we're evaluating," when he was asked.  That's just how he rolls.

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The problem with this franchise is that to get anyone to stay you have to offer max money. Idk if Cam is going anywhere but it is going to take max money to keep him. Which is ultimately the biggest problem.

Stupid post. Cam will make max money anywhere, and the fact is your money actually goes farther in the Carolinas than most other markets, giving us an advantage in that way in FA just as it is for regular Joes, and is a large reason we signed Tolbert and other FA's. We signed MEshawn Johnson for Pete's sake because he thought he would be a piece to a title run. Get over the inferiority complex!!!

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I think they sacrificed the oline and improved other parts of the team because of the lack of money and cams mobility. This gave us both the best short term and long term answer.

It sucks, it's not fair, but this is where we are. People are screaming we should have signed deshaun jackson, we should have signed blah blah blah.

Uh we sign any of those guys they won't have a qb here to throw to him worth a damn. We have no fuging money. The money we have goes to cam and then to luke.

I seriously think it's a 1% chance cam leaves if that. He's gonna be one of the richest qbs in NFL history when it's all said and done

 

I don't think they "sacrificed" O-Line.

 

I think they picked the wrong formula.

 

Gettleman believes that the best way to build a dominant offensive line is to get a solid young core of players and allow them to grow together and build chemistry.  It's a solid strategy, but you have to have the right guys to make it work.

 

Rivera, who as we've discussed before tends to put waaaaay too much faith in less talented guys that try really hard, believed that Bell and Chandler could be part of that core.  I'm not entirely sure Gettleman did, but it's the plan he signed on for so the end result still ultimately falls on him.

 

So, bad plan, made worse by the fact that most of the better options on the line are now hurt.  Kalil is the only good lineman we have who's healthy.

 

Oy :(

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When was my first post (ThinkAboutIt)? This isn't the only site where anything can be said. Chris McClain's inbox at WFNZ is full of my emails about it, not that I'm posting any of them.

Baseless opinions are irrelevant. The fact is Gettleman has not made the Offensive line a priority. A line made up mostly of undrafted linemen is evidence of that fact.

The fact is GMan didn't reach for any linemen that he would either have to overpay for a short term solution or who he didn't believe were any better than what he thought we had. He was wrong about the talent, we all see that. But you're sitting here saying he neglected to help the line because he wants Cam to fail and you're saying that is a fact and anyone who disagrees with you is a moron. WHAT????

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Portis was on the radio the other day telling his story of how he was allowed to test the market by Shanahan. It came from his own mouth.

 

Oh, you're right.  That happened too.

 

But Mike Shanahan isn't exactly the smartest guy either.  His rep as a good coach is largely courtesy of John Elway and Bill Walsh.

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