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Cam and Russell pressure stats this season: the raw numbers

TonyN

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Russell Wilson has been sacked 14 times and hit 24 times on 175 passing attempts this season.

 

Cam Newton has been sacked 14 times and hit 34 times on 206 passing attempts this season.

 

So:

 

Wilson has a sack percentage of 8.0 and has been hit on 13.7% of his dropbacks this season

 

While Newton has a sack percentage of 6.8 and has been hit on 16.5 % of his dropbacks this season

 

Feel free to spin the numbers.

 

 

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The salaries of each OL playing Sunday
 
LT - Russell Okung - $11,240,000
LG - James Carpenter - $2,431,364
C- Max Unger - $6,100,000
RG - J.R. Sweezy - $584,212
RT - Justin Britt - $628,533
Seahawks OL - $20,984,109
 
LT - Byron Bell - $2,187.000
LG - Andrew Norwell - $420,000
C - Ryan Kalil - $7,284,000
RG - Fernando Valesco - $635,000
RT - Nate Chandler - $770,000
Panthers OL - $11,296,000
 
$9,688,109 - Difference
 
In terms of the numbers presented above, the pressure stats look similar if not better for Cam so perhaps our OL could be worse (Seattle's O-Line). 
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The salaries of each OL playing Sunday
 
LT - Russell Okung - $11,240,000
LG - James Carpenter - $2,431,364
C- Max Unger - $6,100,000
RG - J.R. Sweezy - $584,212
RT - Justin Britt - $628,533
Seahawks OL - $20,984,109
 
LT - Byron Bell - $2,187.000
LG - Andrew Norwell - $420,000
C - Ryan Kalil - $7,284,000
RG - Fernando Valesco - $635,000
RT - Nate Chandler - $770,000
Panthers OL - $11,296,000
 
$9,688,109 - Difference
 
In terms of the numbers presented above, the pressure stats look similar if not better for Cam so perhaps our OL could be worse (Seattle's O-Line). 

 

 

Almost no one on this forum will admit it, but Carolina's offensive line has been average in pass protection. There are quite a number of teams with worse pass blocking. My God, have none of you seen a Jags game this year, for instance???

 

In terms of run-blocking, the Panthers are definitely below average, but since the running backs have been so banged up it is really hard to judge where they actually stand.

 

Gettleman has put together a serviceable offensive line while spending very, very little money.

 

Many people will never admit that this O-line is not the dumpster fire so many claim it to be...

 

It's too easy of a scapegoat.

 

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Almost no one on this forum will admit it, but Carolina's offensive line has been average in pass protection. There are quite a number of teams with worse pass blocking. My God, have none of you seen a Jags game this year, for instance???

In terms of run-blocking, the Panthers are definitely below average, but since the running backs have been so banged up it is really hard to judge where they actually stand.

Gettleman has put together a serviceable offensive line while spending very, very little money.

Many people will never admit that this O-line is not the dumpster fire so many claim it to be...

It's too easy of a scapegoat.

This x 100.

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The salaries of each OL playing Sunday

LT - Russell Okung - $11,240,000

LG - James Carpenter - $2,431,364

C- Max Unger - $6,100,000

RG - J.R. Sweezy - $584,212

RT - Justin Britt - $628,533

Seahawks OL - $20,984,109

LT - Byron Bell - $2,187.000

LG - Andrew Norwell - $420,000

C - Ryan Kalil - $7,284,000

RG - Fernando Valesco - $635,000

RT - Nate Chandler - $770,000

Panthers OL - $11,296,000

$9,688,109 - Difference

In terms of the numbers presented above, the pressure stats look similar if not better for Cam so perhaps our OL could be worse (Seattle's O-Line).

Traditional ground attack also helps aid a QB from opponents setting up to attack them.

We don't have one. Sea has a beastly one. One that is "about dat action, boss"

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Almost no one on this forum will admit it, but Carolina's offensive line has been average in pass protection. There are quite a number of teams with worse pass blocking. My God, have none of you seen a Jags game this year, for instance???

In terms of run-blocking, the Panthers are definitely below average, but since the running backs have been so banged up it is really hard to judge where they actually stand.

Gettleman has put together a serviceable offensive line while spending very, very little money.

Many people will never admit that this O-line is not the dumpster fire so many claim it to be...

It's too easy of a scapegoat.

it is "serviceable" only bc Cam is Cam.

How many plays do OTs get literally blown up off the bat and Cam survives.....other QBs wouldn't.

We literally have no rush attack bc of them....that isn't "servicable".

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it is "serviceable" only bc Cam is Cam.

How many plays do OTs get literally blown up off the bat and Cam survives.....other QBs wouldn't.

We literally have no rush attack bc of them....that isn't "servicable"

 

Some people see what they want to see.

 

There have been very few "jailbreaks" given up by the Panthers this year...a few to be sure, but that happens to every team. I have watched every snap of every Panther game this year on rewind. For most of the season, Cam has had a clean pocket. Carolina is dead average in the NFL in terms of sacks and QB hits.

 

Newton has been immobile for much of the year...so I am not sure where you are going with the contention that "only Cam" could survive behind our offensive line. I hesitate to say this, but for a very substantial sample size, the immobile journeyman Anderson has also "survived".

 

As far as Seattle's run game is concerned, it should serve to actually slow the opposition pass rush...and yet Seattle's O-line has given up as much pressure as Carolina's.

 

Of course I am sure your contention is that the hyper-mobile Russell Wilson could never survive behind our offensive line. I disagree.

 

The rushing attack has been very poor. When Stewart and Williams have been healthy, though, Carolina has averaged 3.7 yards a carry. Not great, but not horrible.

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Some people see what they want to see.

There have been very few "jailbreaks" given up by the Panthers this year...a few to be sure, but that happens to every team. I have watched every snap of every Panther game this year on rewind. For most of the season, Cam has had a clean pocket. Carolina is dead average in the NFL in terms of sacks and QB hits.

Newton has been immobile for much of the year...so I am not sure where you are going with the contention that "only Cam" could survive behind our offensive line. I hesitate to say this, but for a very substantial sample size, the immobile journeyman Anderson has also "survived".

As far as Seattle's run game is concerned, it should serve to actually slow the opposition pass rush...and yet Seattle's O-line has given up as much pressure as Carolina's.

Of course I am sure your contention is that the hyper-mobile Russell Wilson could never survive behind our offensive line. I disagree.

Cam not running or looking slow never made him immobile in the pocket.

Our lineman get comically beat each week. Fortunately, Cam hasn't been drilled when it happens.

As far as the week 1. Good or bad, what goes down week 1 doesn't mean much. Too many oddities in week 1 matchups

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The salaries of each OL playing Sunday

LT - Russell Okung - $11,240,000

LG - James Carpenter - $2,431,364

C- Max Unger - $6,100,000

RG - J.R. Sweezy - $584,212

RT - Justin Britt - $628,533

Seahawks OL - $20,984,109

LT - Byron Bell - $2,187.000

LG - Andrew Norwell - $420,000

C - Ryan Kalil - $7,284,000

RG - Fernando Valesco - $635,000

RT - Nate Chandler - $770,000

Panthers OL - $11,296,000

$9,688,109 - Difference

In terms of the numbers presented above, the pressure stats look similar if not better for Cam so perhaps our OL could be worse (Seattle's O-Line).

Unger is out this week.

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Cam not running or looking slow never made him immobile in the pocket.

Our lineman get comically beat each week. Fortunately, Cam hasn't been drilled when it happens.

As far as the week 1. Good or bad, what goes down week 1 doesn't mean much. Too many oddities in week 1 matchups

 

Are you referring to all those times Newton just stands in the pocket without even the slightest attempt to drift right or left while the pocket collapses around him???

 

Sure, the man takes off occasionally, but as far as moving in the pocket to buy time to throw downfield...not so much.

 

This was never intended to be a "Cam Newton" thread, but by golly here we are !!!

 

Anyway, I am not going to argue with a true believer.

 

I am sure in the Bengals game for instance, the game where Carolina had 46 passing attempts, 0 sacks and 4 QB hits, no other QB in the league would have survived. Only Cam...LOL.

 

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