Hardy's Heart is in Carolina

[General_Purr]

What if all our best players got pointed at for something off field and they were in his position... do we let them go too? Do we only let people here who are perfect conservative angels? Do we need to recruit some soccer players? Tennis? 

 

I just don't see someone coming along and replacing that type of player. Its a once in a decade thing to have a kraken on the line, before that was Peppers. Now he has a shot at the super bowl..

[Montsta]

One thing we have got to remember about Hardy, is that he is going to serve a six game suspension. Guilty or not. Goodell will make it happen. So even though he's already served a suspensions of 17 games, he'll get 23 games total.

So don't expect Gettleman to throw much money at him even after "the process has played out", because I doubt Gettleman is gonna want to throw another 5 million of dead money at a guy that won't have played in a game for a year and a half at that point.

[Hammerin'Cameron34]

One thing we have got to remember about Hardy, is that he is going to serve a six game suspension. Guilty or not. Goodell will make it happen. So even though he's already served a suspensions of 17 games, he'll get 23 games total.

So don't expect Gettleman to throw much money at him even after "the process has played out", because I doubt Gettleman is gonna want to throw another 5 million of dead money at a guy that won't have played in a game for a year and a half at that point.

 

No, man, no

 

He just missed all of one season, besides one game. He is not going to be suspended any longer.

[WUnderhill]

No, man, no

 

He just missed all of one season, besides one game. He is not going to be suspended any longer.

 

He probably will be suspended longer, if found guilty (see AP). The argument being that the time he's served hasn't been a "suspension" since he's gotten paid.

 

Not sure about if he's found not guilty. I'd like to think not.

[CarolinaCoolin]

One thing we have got to remember about Hardy, is that he is going to serve a six game suspension. Guilty or not. Goodell will make it happen. So even though he's already served a suspensions of 17 games, he'll get 23 games total.

So don't expect Gettleman to throw much money at him even after "the process has played out", because I doubt Gettleman is gonna want to throw another 5 million of dead money at a guy that won't have played in a game for a year and a half at that point.

If he's found not guilty they can't do anything to him. You are completely wrong on that

[Hammerin'Cameron34]

He probably will be suspended longer, if found guilty (see AP). The argument being that the time he's served hasn't been a "suspension" since he's gotten paid.

 

Not sure about if he's found not guilty. I'd like to think not.

 

AP will get out of his suspension the only reason he didnt is because he didnt show up to a meeting with the commish or some bullshit so then they decided to extend his suspension, guilty or not, Hardy wont serve anymore time.

[WUnderhill]

AP will get out of his suspension the only reason he didnt is because he didnt show up to a meeting with the commish or some bullshit so then they decided to extend his suspension, guilty or not, Hardy wont serve anymore time.

 

The not showing up to the meeting thing only lengthened his suspension, it wouldn't have gotten him out of it completely.

[Servant of Cthululelei]

I honestly think it's irresponsible of all these sports writers to be dismissing Greg Hardy as gone like it's an absolute certainty, Voth included.  There has been literally nothing said by the team about him since September.  Unless they have some information we don't, all these guys are just speculating based on assumptions and calling it fact.

[fjblair]

His heart might be in Carolina but his ass is out the door.

[bandu]

He gone.

where?

[uncfan888]

This thread is hilarious...

Hope springs eternal, I guess

[Gregg S]

I honestly think it's irresponsible of all these sports writers to be dismissing Greg Hardy as gone like it's an absolute certainty, Voth included. There has been literally nothing said by the team about him since September. Unless they have some information we don't, all these guys are just speculating based on assumptions and calling it fact.

It's called being a member of the press. It's what they do.

[stirs]

Bottom line is his maturity.

 

He did questionable things well beyond his choice of women.

 

If he has grown up and mostly if he is found innocent, then a modest contract for him would be a good deal for the team.  I could imagine the chip on his shoulder towards the league if found not guilty.

 

A properly worded contract would make him a multi millionaire and protect the team from any stupidity

[Montsta]

If he's found not guilty they can't do anything to him. You are completely wrong on that

"Effective immediately, violations of the Personal Conduct Policy regarding assault, battery, domestic violence or sexual assault that involve physical force will be subject to a suspension without pay of six games for a first offense, with consideration given to mitigating factors, as well as a longer suspension when circumstances warrant. Among the circumstances that would merit a more severe penalty would be a prior incident before joining the NFL, or violence involving a weapon, choking, repeated striking, or when the act is committed against a pregnant woman or in the presence of a child. A second offense will result in banishment from the NFL;"

This is the NFL's new policy, verbatim. It doesn't mention convictions; it mentions first offenses. It also mentions weapon involvement or choking as being a special circumstance that could actually warrant longer than six games. So if someone can prove me wrong with a link that proves without a doubt that Hardy won't be suspended, I'm happy to read it and will gladly admit I'm wrong.

Hardy hasn't even been suspended yet. He's been getting paid. No time served, nothing. If you don't think the NFL can interpret rules in any way they choose to screw players, then you haven't been paying attention.