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Vic Beasley

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I didn't even have the combine on until about one minute ago, so I had no idea that he already ran or the time he put up when I decided to post this thread this morning... I'm just getting around to it now, but there is something about the kid. I had a chance to watch him several times last season and I was just blown away, namely in the NC State game, and he was dominant. He just has a knack for making big plays at key times. To me, he appeared to be super athletic and as guy that could be a pro LB or DE.

So, idk where he is projected, I don't know how he has measured aside from the 40 time he just posted, but I knew since mid-season that I would love to have the guy on our team.

How would you feel if we took him (so long as he isn't projected in the 1st lol)?

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He'll go Top 10. We have no shot at him.

It's weird though... Watching him play in college, I felt he was that kind of talent but I didn't hear him mentioned nationally. Even watching total access last night, they mentioned him as an afterthought...

Again, I don't keep up with the projections through the season or even up through the combine really, aside from the top 2 to 3 obvious guys, so I have no idea where they are projected to go until after this weekend. But, I definitely hadn't heard him projected in the top 10 to this point. I imagine his measurables just shot him up on boards quite a bit though.

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I like the way people say that about EVERY good WR or OT or any good player in general. All the good players will not be gone by pick number 10.

 

Vic Beasley ran the fastest 40, tied for the highest bench, and had the best production of all of his competitors in college. Explain to me how you believe he doesn't go top 10? Pass rushers, LTs, and QBs go early as long as they are guys that look to be the real deal. This draft is extremely light on QB and franchise LT types. Pass rushers will get pushed up. 

 

Also, some food for thought: John Fox drafted a similar player in Von Miller and he became a key player on his defense. With Fox in Chicago and them switching to a 3-4, wouldn't it make too much sense to take a guy you could get similar results from at 8? 

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Vic Beasley ran the fastest 40, tied for the highest bench, and had the best production of all of his competitors in college. Explain to me how you believe he doesn't go top 10? Pass rushers, LTs, and QBs go early as long as they are guys that look to be the real deal. This draft is extremely light on QB and franchise LT types. Pass rushers will get pushed up.

Also, some food for thought: John Fox drafted a similar player in Von Miller and he became a key player on his defense. With Fox in Chicago and them switching to a 3-4, wouldn't it make too much sense to take a guy you could get similar results from at 8?

Bc if he really isn't a NFL 4-3 DE

He will have to change positions and be an OLB. Something he wasn't in college. Transitions are always an unknown.

I think he goes bottom of the first round bc of that. Von Miller made that transition in college. He basically spent his last two years in college not being a traditional DE

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Vic is going to end up being either a 34 OLB in the same style of Clay Matthews, OR he's going to end up being a 43 OLB in the same style as Bruce Irvin is now for the Seahawks. The problem is, in the 43, he's going to need to be in a 'hybrid' scheme, like Irvin currently is, to really excel.

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Bc if he really isn't a NFL 4-3 DE

He will have to change positions and be an OLB. Something he wasn't in college. Transitions are always an unknown.

I think he goes bottom of the first round bc of that. Von Miller made that transition in college. He basically spent his last two years in college not being a traditional DE

 

Beasley played with his hand down, standing up, rushing inside, rushing outside, dabbled in coverage. He was a playmaker. Playmakers with his tool set don't last until the end of round 1. 

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Vic was pro ready as a sophomore. He is more suited as a Sam LB. He's not a DE in any set.

for those that think he will fall to us because of that fact are dreaming...but there's nothing wrong with dreaming.

Thomas Davis was a safety coming out of college.

if Atlanta gets Beasley and goes after GHardy we are toast. Byron Bell and a back against those two...forget it.

the Bears are looking DT and Vic won't fall past the Falcons.

We have to re-sign Hardy. This is the same situation that we went through with Charles Johnson.

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Vic was pro ready as a sophomore. He is more suited as a Sam LB. He's not a DE in any set.

for those that think he will fall to us because of that fact are dreaming...but there's nothing wrong with dreaming.

Thomas Davis was a safety coming out of college.

if Atlanta gets Beasley and goes after GHardy we are toast. Byron Bell and a back against those two...forget it.

the Bears are looking DT and Vic won't fall past the Falcons.

We have to re-sign Hardy. This is the same situation that we went through with Charles Johnson.

 

TD may have been listed as a safety in college, but he didn't play much safety in the sense of dropping into deep coverage.  He lived in the box at UGA.  UGA was essentially running a 4-4 base because TD was almost always in the box.

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TD may have been listed as a safety in college, but he didn't play much safety in the sense of dropping into deep coverage. He lived in the box at UGA. UGA was essentially running a 4-4 base because TD was almost always in the box.

he had to be in coverage quite a bit...having only 3 DBs in a game leaves a WR wide open every time. but I know he was used for some blitz packages and covering deep crosses and slants.

the Panthers converted him to an OLB and I'm not going to argue about it anymore because half of Panther nation used to plead for him to be used as a safety when we had Morgan, Witherspoon and Lathon.

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he had to be in coverage quite a bit...having only 3 DBs in a game leaves a WR wide open every time. but I know he was used for some blitz packages and covering deep crosses and slants.

the Panthers converted him to an OLB and I'm not going to argue about it anymore because half of Panther nation used to plead for him to be used as a safety when we had Morgan, Witherspoon and Lathon.

 

Couple things. Lathon was gone by the time Davis got here. Also, Davis started his rookie year out at safety. He got torched in coverage and was moved to the bench to be used in a "joker" role for the rest of the year. It was only after his rookie year that they decided that he should be moved to OLB because in the offseason he asked Mark Fields' permission to switch from 47 to 58 (Fields' old number that was thought to be semi-retired because of the Keep Pounding campaign).

 

Davis was always a good spy on the QB (we drafted him to stop Michael Vick, and it worked) which gave him the illusion of being ok in coverage. In reality, he was just faster than the guys he was in the box against. On an island, he gets exposed. Nothing wrong with that at LB. 

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