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Aligning the draft with position depth


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Read more at http://walterfootball.com/draft2015positionreviewWR.php#iSuMZL7CYfHMLe9F.99

 

This is from Walter Football, so all of you who think that site sucks, please don't feel the tremendous burden to read on or even add an uninformative post. I think he pretty much nails it here (a bit soft on later RBs and hard on the WRs).  I have liked the DTs in this draft, especially if you want to peek at the 3-4 DEs.  We have 2 reserve 34-35 year old guys, so do not be surprised if we grab a DT.

 

FWIW, this could help your mocking between now and April 30.

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Offensive Tackle Class
Early-round talent: A-
Mid-round: B+
Late-round: B-
Overall grade: B+
Running Back Class
Early-round talent: A
Mid-round: A
Late-round: A-
Overall grade: A
Wide Receiver Class
Early-round talent: A-
Mid-round: B+
Late-round: B+
Overall grade: A-
 

Defensive End Class
Early-round talent: B+
Mid-round: B
Late-round: C+
Overall grade: B
Defensive Tackle Class
Early-round talent: A
Mid-round: A-
Late-round: B
Overall grade: A-
4-3 OLB Class
Early-round talent: A
Mid-round: B
Late-round: B
Overall grade: B+

Safety Class
Early-round talent: C
Mid-round: D+
Late-round: D
Overall grade: D

Cornerback Class
Early-round talent: B+
Mid-round: B
Late-round: B-
Overall grade: B
 

 

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"think that site sucks"

Have talked to a number of scouts over the years who I guess won't be taking in the burden on of reading your article.

Let me get this straight--You and NFL scouts chat, and when you do, its about Walterfootball.com. 

 

I believe you. 

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Let me get this straight--You and NFL scouts chat, and when you do, its about Walterfootball.com.

I believe you.

Yes, a number of times, actually. Have the pleasure of meeting them personally in quite the number each year at the senior bowl-and guess what?

Walterfootball is a fansite.

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Walterfootball is a fansite.

And I pretty much  stated that in the beginning--when I predicted some douche would troll the content because he saw Walterfootball and couldn't get over it.  I don't need someone with a junior scout deputy badge and a restraining order in Mobile to tell me what to read.

 

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"think that site sucks"

Have talked to a number of scouts over the years who I guess won't be taking in the burden on of reading your article.

I would hope professional NFL scouts are not getting their information from Walterfootball or any website for that matter.

I personally don't rub elbows with NFL scouts and sometimes find articles coming from fansites and media somewhat informative.

Perhaps you could share some of the insight you've gained from your NFL buds rather than simply ridiculing others.

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And I pretty much stated that in the beginning--when I predicted some douche would troll the content because he saw Walterfootball and couldn't get over it. I don't need someone with a junior scout deputy badge and a restraining order in Mobile to tell me what to read.

I didn't tell you what to read. I told you what everyone here didn't want to read.

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lol I don't have to

 

According to the others who posted on this thread, you don't think for anyone-yourself included.  Look, I cannot keep you from being a tool--that is a choice you made and you have achieved a great deal of success at it. 

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