Corrected Tables with Preseason Receiving Statistics

[KB_fan]

Apologies all, I've been off my game today in posting various tables and stats.  I'm a bit under the weather and so made sloppy errors. 

In several threads today I posted data regarding reception stats for the Panthers in the first 3 preseason games, derived from the Gamebooks downloaded from Panthers.com  The Gamebooks are the only places I've found numbers of targets per player.  In any case, I had a bunch of errors in the tables which messed up the average yards per reception, and the longest reception.  I also had incomplete data re: number of games played for some players.  Here are the corrected tables.

Here are the receiving stats sorted by total yards:

Player	Games Played	TAR	REC	Rec %	YDS	AVG	LG	TD
J.Boykin	3	19	9	47%	93	10.3	17	0
G.Olsen	3	14	10	71%	87	8.7	23	0
T.Ginn	3	8	5	63%	83	16.6	38	0
M.Lucas	3	5	4	80%	67	16.8	29	0
B.Bersin	3	7	3	43%	59	19.7	27	1
D.Byrd	3	7	5	71%	58	11.6	18	1
M.Brown	3	11	5	45%	58	11.6	15	0
D.Funchess	1	4	2	50%	53	26.5	34	0
B.Wegher	3	3	2	67%	47	23.5	42	1
S.Simonson	3	5	5	100%	40	8.0	17	0
J.Cotchery	3	5	4	80%	38	9.5	18	0
K.Benjamin	1	5	3	60%	36	12.0	19	1
F.Whittaker	3	1	1	100%	7	7.0	7	0
E.Dickson	2	3	1	33%	5	5.0	5	0
C.Brown	3	11	1	9%	5	5.0	5	0
C.Artis-Payne	3	2	2	100%	2	1.0	7	0
M.Tolbert	3	1	1	100%	2	2.0	2	1
J. Todman	3	2	2	100%	2	1.0	1	0
P.Browning	3	1	0	0%	0	0.0	0	0
Total		117	65		742	11.4		5

And now here is the data sorted by reception %:

Player	Games Played	TAR	REC	Rec %	YDS	AVG	LG	TD
S.Simonson	3	5	5	100%	40	8.0	17	0
F.Whittaker	3	1	1	100%	7	7.0	7	0
C.Artis-Payne	3	2	2	100%	2	1.0	7	0
M.Tolbert	3	1	1	100%	2	2.0	2	1
J. Todman	3	2	2	100%	2	1.0	1	0
M.Lucas	3	5	4	80%	67	16.8	29	0
J.Cotchery	3	5	4	80%	38	9.5	18	0
G.Olsen	3	14	10	71%	87	8.7	23	0
D.Byrd	3	7	5	71%	58	11.6	18	1
B.Wegher	3	3	2	67%	47	23.5	42	1
T.Ginn	3	8	5	63%	83	16.6	38	0
K.Benjamin	1	5	3	60%	36	12.0	19	1
D.Funchess	1	4	2	50%	53	26.5	34	0
J.Boykin	3	19	9	47%	93	10.3	17	0
M.Brown	3	11	5	45%	58	11.6	15	0
B.Bersin	3	7	3	43%	59	19.7	27	1
E.Dickson	2	3	1	33%	5	5.0	5	0
C.Brown	3	11	1	9%	5	5.0	5	0
P.Browning	3	1	0	0%	0	0.0	0	0
Total		117	65		742	11.4		5

[Carolina Cajun]

9%!?!?! and they wonder why people want him cut....jeeze, Armanti Edwards had bettter numbers than that.

[Jeremy Igo]

C.Brown

3

11

1

9%

5

5.0

5

0

YEEESHHHH 

[chknwing]

corey did better when we called him Philly. just saying

[dldove77]

C.Brown

3

11

1

9%

5

5.0

5

0

YEEESHHHH 

wide open on most of them

[rico6]

Bro, at least he gets open.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I tried. 

[hepcat]

Is there ANY way you can break down targets vs. QB?  Like Boykin - was never even thrown to by Cam.

[KB_fan]

By the way, for anyone wanting the gamebook statistics to do your own analysis, they're not super easy to find on the Panthers website.  It took me some googling and some playing around to figure out how to get them.

Go to the Panthers Schedule page, and the Game Schedule link:

http://www.panthers.com/schedule/schedule.html

You can then click on the "gameday" link for any individual game, e.g. Preseason week 1

http://www.panthers.com/schedule/game/2015/preseason1

And there in tiny print under the score line at the top, you'll find links for

Gamebook | Recap | Highlights | Photos
 

And then below are various stats for the game.

 

So... here are the gamebook links for each of the 3 pre-season games. (copy & paste link into your browser)

 

http://prod.static.panthers.clubs.nfl.com/assets/docs/2015/150814_car@buf_gamebook.pdf

http://prod.static.panthers.clubs.nfl.com/assets/docs/2015/150822_mia@car_gamebook.pdf

http://prod.static.panthers.clubs.nfl.com/assets/docs/2015/150828_ne@car_gamebook.pdf

 

These are the publicly available gamebooks.  There are apparently somewhat more details ones which include each players' snap counts (I was sent a copy of the preseason game 3 detailed gamebook by a friend.)  I don't know how to find the more detailed gamebooks.  Perhaps they are only available to media or NFL officials, or perhaps there is a subscription service...?

 

[jimfear]

For all the talk on how sure handed Bersin is, the numbers (albeit they are limited) don't back it up.

[KB_fan]

For all the talk on how sure handed Bersin is, the numbers (albeit they are limited) don't back it up.

True.  He himself admitted he's not been playing up to expectations.  His stats were much better last year.

Primarily he made a number of clutch 3rd down conversions

Here is his 1st down percentage

                                                GP / rec / 1st downs / 1st down %

176

Brenton Bersin

WR

CAR

15  /

13

/  11  /

84.6

So, 11 of his 13 receptions were for 1st downs - one of the highest rates in the league.

He caught 13 of 20 targets (65%) for 151 yards and 1 TD

He had only 1 drop on the 20 targets.

Here's drop % data for Carolina receivers last year

this is taken from Sporting Charts:  http://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/stats/drops/2014/

		POS	Team	receptions	drops	targets	reception %	drop %
280	DeAngelo Williams	RB	CAR	5	0	6	83.30%	0.00%
307	Brandon Williams	TE	CAR	4	0	8	50.00%	0.00%
333	Darrin Reaves	RB	CAR	5	0	8	62.50%	0.00%
338	Fozzy Whittaker	RB	CAR	5	0	6	83.30%	0.00%
236	Jerricho Cotchery	WR	CAR	48	1	78	61.50%	1.30%
156	Greg Olsen	TE	CAR	84	2	123	68.30%	1.60%
267	Jonathan Stewart	RB	CAR	25	1	31	80.60%	3.20%
211	Brenton Bersin	WR	CAR	13	1	20	65.00%	5.00%
142	Philly Brown	WR	CAR	21	2	36	58.30%	5.60%
240	Ed Dickson	TE	CAR	10	1	17	58.80%	5.90%
3	Kelvin Benjamin	WR	CAR	73	10	145	50.30%	6.90%
96	Mike Tolbert	RB	CAR	12	3	17	70.60%	17.70%

 

 

[jimfear]

Thanks KB Fan, interesting info

[pstall]

You need to add a fantasy stat angle to better illustrate your point.

PPT per rec target. Go to the googles and see.

[KB_fan]

You need to add a fantasy stat angle to better illustrate your point.

PPT per rec target. Go to the googles and see.

Thanks.  I'll check it out.  I'm not involved in Fantasy Football, so I'm not so aware of a lot of those sites or the stats they track.

[pstall]

http://www.4for4.com/fantasy-football/fantasy-points-target-ppr-scoring-2014Thanks.  I'll check it out.  I'm not involved in Fantasy Football, so I'm not so aware of a lot of those sites or the stats they track.

i swear posting on my cell has become like trying to understand thermal dynamics.

 

See link in your quote