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OTL Report: Goodell's Handling of Deflategate was a "Make-up Call," After Letting Pats Slide On Spygate (Panthers Related)


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It's still actually legal though. The only thing that was made illegal in 2007 was filming from the sidelines. You can still legally film from nearby buildings, even the stands, I think. The Pats got in trouble because in 2007 when it was made illegal, they continued to do it.

If they stole play sheets or did other illegal things then punish and hate them for that, I would and will. But Spygate was honestly blown out of proportion.

So Mark McGwire and Barry Bonds should both be first ballot Hall of Famers because steroids weren't actually illegal at the time they did them, correct?

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How about answer my question...

 

Just because something is legal, does that make it right?

No it doesn't make it right, but if you aren't exploring every legal avenue to win then I don't really have sympathy. It's worth noting that several teams continued filming sidelines well into 2007, but the league found out and sent memos, at which point all of the teams apparently stopped except for the Patriots.

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Saints defending the Pats makes perfect sense.

How did I say anything defending the Pats? Because I refuse to use OTL and their shoddy investigations and reporting as credible sources? Every single OTL report is the same. They have no evidence. They have no one willing to put their name out. They have "anonymous sources" who day they know all of this stuff, but won't go on record with it. 

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Anabolic steroids have been illegal since 1990 so I don't see why you'd say that

they weren't considered banned substances by major league baseball until after the "steroids era".

edit: you were right. They were banned in 1991 but players were not tested for them until 2003. 

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No it doesn't make it right, but if you aren't exploring every legal avenue to win then I don't really have sympathy. It's worth noting that several teams continued filming sidelines well into 2007, but the league found out and sent memos, at which point all of the teams apparently stopped except for the Patriots.

I disagree... there's trying to win and then there's cheating.  It may be a fine line, but the Patriots crossed that line time and time again...  just because something isn't technically illegal doesn't make it not cheating.

 

I think the vast majority of people would agree that stealing other teams game plans fall squarely in the cheating category, regardless of the means used to do so.

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I disagree... there's trying to win and then there's cheating.  It may be a fine line, but the Patriots crossed that line time and time again...  just because something isn't technically illegal doesn't make it not cheating.

 

I think the vast majority of people would agree that stealing other teams game plans fall squarely in the cheating category, regardless of the means used to do so.

I disagree there, I think it has to violate the rules to be cheating. Is it cheap and shameful and unsportsmanlike? Yes, it's like button mashing in a video game or doing the same move over and over. Makes you a punk but it's not "cheating."

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