Teron Armstead (Saints LT) gets 64.5 Mill for his 5 year extension, 38 Mill injury guarantee

[Growl]

Any decade now that team is gonna collapse and stuff, hang in there guys!

[Saca312]

I can't wait until that organization crumbles and becomes as irrelevant as the Browns.

[Ricky Spanish]

The only reason that team isn't a perennial top 5 pick in the draft is due to Breesus and his willpower. Brees is one of the all time greats and when he finally hangs it up or they move on from him, that team is going in the shitter. 

I can't wait. 

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

5 minutes ago, Growl said:

Any decade now that team is gonna collapse and stuff, hang in there guys!

they would legitimately suck without their quarterback and he's old as hell so put two and two together

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

and it's not that they're cap strapped, it's that they're cap strapped and not a serious super bowl threat every year

e: or rather big spenders.  i don't know if they're up against the cap right now, i know they've moved some salaries around recently

[Growl]

5 minutes ago, The NFL Shield At Midfield said:

they would legitimately suck without their quarterback and he's old as hell so put two and two together

So without a franchise QB an NFL team wouldn't be good?

 

That's an earth shattering notion your putting forth.

[thefuzz]

10 minutes ago, Growl said:

Any decade now that team is gonna collapse and stuff, hang in there guys!

A team with a top 5 QB that has gone 7-9, 7-9, 11-5, and 7-9 over the past 4 seasons, with little hope of a better season this year, and said aging QB quickly losing ability?

If I were the owner, heads would be rolling.  They mismanaged by going "all in" and it backfired....now they are in a perpetual "all in" situation.  No thank you.

[Ricky Spanish]

9 minutes ago, Promethean Forerunner said:

Check out his statistics whenever he went up against the better DEs in the league. It's a mixed bag. Like I said, he's good but not elite.

We were looking at him pretty hard that draft from what I remember. He's also pretty young. 

 

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

10 minutes ago, Growl said:

So without a franchise QB an NFL team wouldn't be good?

 

That's an earth shattering notion your putting forth.

it seems like it's a notion you disagree with considering hurr durr the saints are going to collapse any day now lol huddle

e: to make it more clear it's like you're talking out of both sides of your mouth.  like you're implying we're all idiots for thinking the saints are a house of cards but at the same time acknowledging that yes without brees they'd be a dumpster fire.  so what are we arguing about?

[Growl]

16 minutes ago, thefuzz said:

A team with a top 5 QB that has gone 7-9, 7-9, 11-5, and 7-9 over the past 4 seasons, with little hope of a better season this year, and said aging QB quickly losing ability?

If I were the owner, heads would be rolling.  They mismanaged by going "all in" and it backfired....now they are in a perpetual "all in" situation.  No thank you.

New Orleans is terrible because mickey Loomis has no idea how to fil out the bottom of a roster and no concern for what happens on the defensive side of the football. It doesn't have anything to do with going "all in."  That's an overhyped, silly notion if there ever were one, and you don't see people applying it to other teams with aging QBs who actually know how to do the things mentioned above in spite of similar philosophies between them.

[Growl]

17 minutes ago, The NFL Shield At Midfield said:

it seems like it's a notion you disagree with considering hurr durr the saints are going to collapse any day now lol huddle

e: to make it more clear it's like you're talking out of both sides of your mouth.  like you're implying we're all idiots for thinking the saints are a house of cards but at the same time acknowledging that yes without brees they'd be a dumpster fire.  so what are we arguing about?

The post I just made above will likely answer that question in full, but my initial point was that the notion that an NFL team without a franchise QB is obviously likely going to struggle. Its pretty much a rule.

The notion that spending money=bad team is so heavily tethered to one another in your mind it only makes it look like I'm saying two different things.

[thefuzz]

4 minutes ago, Growl said:

New Orleans is terrible because mickey Loomis has no idea how to fil out the bottom of a roster and no concern for what happens on the defensive side of the football. It doesn't have anything to do with going "all in."  That's an overhyped, silly notion if there ever were one, and you don't see people applying it to other teams with aging QBs who actually know how to do the things mentioned above in spite of similar philosophies between them.

Wonder if the Giants went "all in" this year?

[Growl]

Just now, thefuzz said:

Wonder if the Giants went "all in" this year?

No team really ever goes "all in" that's the point. Its just a rationale fans use to explain why their team didn't make a move they probably should have or did make a move they shouldn't have by framing the argument within a more unquantifiable measure, that measure being the distant future. 

[thefuzz]

1 minute ago, Growl said:

No team really ever goes "all in" that's the point. Its just a rationale fans use to explain why their team didn't make a move they probably should have or did make a move they shouldn't have by framing the argument within a more unquantifiable measure, that measure being the distant future. 

Disagree.  The Giants went "all in" for the next 2 years....knowing that Eli is aging, and if wins don't come soon, they will be rebuilding.