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It's Time To Acknowledge The Elephant In The Room

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I believe the disdain the NFL has for Cam is because Cam has a larger than life personality.         Prior to Cam,  the  MVP Qbs of the last decade or so..   were Peyton, Brady and Rodgers.      Peyton was a legacy...    and for the most part,  kept his head down and didn't ruffle many feathers.       Brady is the ultimate underdog,  and outside of getting excited during games or upset,  he "knows his place",  and doesn't ruffle any feathers..  most hate him because of cheating allegations related to his team.

Rodgers is possibly the biggest personality of the Brady, Peyton and Rodgers trio.....and outside of  few snarky comments every now and then..........he knows his place....and doesn't ruffle feathers. 

 

Then comes Cam....the new face of the league.  The new MVP.        He is outspoken.    He has personally called refs out in the past.  He dances.  As a qb..............he may not know his place.         At least from the perspective of the NFL. 

I'm just rambling......  trying to make sense of it all,  myself.   just throwing some poo out there. 

 

because from my perspective............  Cam is the best face of the league,  the league could possibly ask for.         He is energetic ,  extremely charismatic,   amazing off the field,  and the most polarizing figure in football.                   He is engaging with the fans,  with the kids.    He makes for a nearly perfect face of the league,  imo. 

 

Like I said..........just rambling. 

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The NFL should look into reviews of personal fouls and hits and automatic ejecting for targeting like in college football.  If the have to expand the roster a little to make it work so be it, but between Norman last year against the Giants, Olsen against Cincy two years ago, and Newton this year (and many other games), I've seen enough.  It is embarrassing to the sport and the players who's health is already put on the line just playing.

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9 minutes ago, Darvinsun said:

Mold has nothing to do with it..that is what I am saying..if you are going to negate his size then why allow him to play with small guys...equality means it goes for everyone not just the small guys. Just like racism .Cam is playing totally handicap size and skin color.

You going off of what ifs...that's not the referees job ..he has to go by what happens it's the same thing in real life fear of the unknown ..Cam thru the ball was hit in head that's a foul..you are suppose to play within the rules of the game ..Cam Newton did what about those donkeys 

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11 minutes ago, Pox 08 said:

I believe the disdain the NFL has for Cam is because Cam has a larger than life personality.         Prior to Cam,  the  MVP Qbs of the last decade or so..   were Peyton, Brady and Rodgers.      Peyton was a legacy...    and for the most part,  kept his head down and didn't ruffle many feathers.       Brady is the ultimate underdog,  and outside of getting excited during games or upset,  he "knows his place",  and doesn't ruffle any feathers..  most hate him because of cheating allegations related to his team.

Rodgers is possibly the biggest personality of the Brady, Peyton and Rodgers trio.....and outside of  few snarky comments every now and then..........he knows his place....and doesn't ruffle feathers. 

 

Then comes Cam....the new face of the league.  The new MVP.        He is outspoken.    He has personally called refs out in the past.  He dances.  As a qb..............he may not know his place.         At least from the perspective of the NFL. 

I'm just rambling......  trying to make sense of it all,  myself.   just throwing some poo out there. 

 

because from my perspective............  Cam is the best face of the league,  the league could possibly ask for.         He is energetic ,  extremely charismatic,   amazing off the field,  and the most polarizing figure in football.                   He is engaging with the fans,  with the kids.    He makes for a nearly perfect face of the league,  imo. 

 

Like I said..........just rambling. 

If people dont like Cam i dont think it is the league I think it is a certain demographic of fans and the media.  I do not believe the league had anything to do with it.  If you go to the Broncos forum there is an entire thread bashing Cam.  

Look at it this way.  Everyone that is not a Seahawk fan hates Richard Sherman.  What is the difference?  They are both really good and have big personalities.  

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22 minutes ago, Moorgan said:

They are very comparable. Size affects how refs view a player. Regardless of sport. The Shaq issue was because refs didn't really know what to do with him. I think Cam is the same way. Big Ben doesn't run effectively like Cam but he is probably the closest comparison. But Cam's effectiveness running the ball and escaping confuses the refs I think. 

Either that or it's a conspiracy. I don't know.

That's what I am saying..if I stole a car but have a good reason for stealing it am I steal going to jail...rules are rules...just bc he is bigger doesn't mean he is judge differently but you must try a different way of stopping him within the rules. If not why let him play he is at a disadvantage .but football is about advantages every sport is.

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4 minutes ago, RickyManningJr said:

If people dont like Cam i dont think it is the league I think it is a certain demographic of fans and the media.  I do not believe the league had anything to do with it.  If you go to the Broncos forum there is an entire thread bashing Cam.  

Look at it this way.  Everyone that is not a Seahawk fan hates Richard Sherman.  What is the difference?  They are both really good and have big personalities.  

The QB position is regarded as a more "sacred" position.        Some people have in their minds how the qb should act....and what a qb should say and do.

 

Football fans..........aren't a concern for me.........the NFL is.                I saw a defender throw a punch at Cam........no flag..nothing.           The OP is correct in his assessment of the refs just not giving a fug,  last night.    Their body language,  their expressions,  were those of a group of individuals that did not give a flying fug about player safety.              That is alarming.            Since even though Cam is big,  the rules are the rules for a reason.    The brain is a sensitive thing,  no matter the size of a player.        If the NFL continues to allow this "new" strategy when it comes to playing against Cam......  he will not last 3 more games. 

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Just now, Darvinsun said:

That's what I am saying..if I stole a car but have a good reason for stealing it am I steal going to jail...rules are rules...just bc he is bigger doesn't mean he is judge differently but you must try a different way of stopping him within the rules. If not why let him play he is at a disadvantage .but football is about advantages every sport is.

The reason I say basketball is,different bc of the type of contact back in the day basketball was tougher but so was football. ...but I see what you are saying

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Every defense in the league would be world beaters if they were allowed to constantly aim for the head of opposing qbs. 

 

Hell.............  with the speed and power of Luke and Thomas Davis.......we'd be unstoppable if we were allowed to head hunt without fear of penalty.  

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4 minutes ago, Pox 08 said:

The QB position is regarded as a more "sacred" position.        Some people have in their minds how the qb should act....and what a qb should say and do.

 

Football fans..........aren't a concern for me.........the NFL is.                I saw a defender throw a punch at Cam........no flag..nothing.           The OP is correct in his assessment of the refs just not giving a fug,  last night.    Their body language,  their expressions,  were those of a group of individuals that did not give a flying fug about player safety.              That is alarming.            Since even though Cam is big,  the rules are the rules for a reason.    The brain is a sensitive thing,  no matter the size of a player.        If the NFL continues to allow this "new" strategy when it comes to playing against Cam......  he will not last 3 more games. 

 

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The thing is the black official was just as bad.  When we stopped them on that 3d and one, he runs straight to the play and then reaches 3 ft over to his left and puts the ball down.  That caused us to waste another time out hoping they would review, which they did not until ron threw the flag.

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It sucks, but it's time to get over it and move on to the next opponent.

We live in a world nowadays where when Superman gets knocked to the ground and bloodied, no one reaches out a hand to pick him up. We have 12 more opposing teams to play this year and every damned one of them wants to see Cam take a beating before we get to them.

He is Superman and 31 teams are out there trying to find some kryptonite. And when one of them does, and he can't get back up, the rest are going to jump on us until there's blood on the fieldturf.

Cam knows it. He ain't crying about it. Let's not either.

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