We haven't had a 1000 yard rusher in 6 going on 7 seasons

[csx]

It seems fairly obvious we would have had at least 2 years ( 2013 and 2015) with a 1000 yard rushers if we didn't have a qb sharing those attempts.  This isn't calculus to figure out.

[GoobyPls]

1 minute ago, csx said:

It seems fairly obvious we would have had at least 2 years ( 2013 and 2015) with a 1000 yard rushers if we didn't have a qb taking those attempt.  This isn't calculus to figure out.

It's fairly obvious if Ted Ginn could catch he wouldn't have been on his 4th team in 5 years. See what I did there.

Without Cam our running would literally bottom 10 every single season since 2012

[CRA]

17 minutes ago, nctarheel0619 said:

Remmers can't, right?  

Consistently he can't do anything reliable. For every play he functions well in he follows it up with a flop

[CRA]

21 minutes ago, GoobyPls said:

1000 yards force feeding him sure, 4.5 ypc is pretty much the cut off between good and average. Stewart is the latter. If we are counting missed games and technicalities than your opening up a smorgasbord of "what if" and "could of"

 

Stewart can't get outside cause he's 245 pounds, slow and always dealing with nagging injuries.

Running more outside isn't a speed issue.  Issue is there is no block to ride out there. OT get pushed backwards and kill the play.  Stewart has to cut back in or start losing yards.  

Our run blocking is almost nonexistent. 

[nctarheel0619]

10 minutes ago, CRA said:

Consistently he can't do anything reliable. For every play he functions well in he follows it up with a flop

Don't tell these guys otherwise.  They won't put that on Gettlemen.  

[Jangler]

32 minutes ago, csx said:

It seems fairly obvious we would have had at least 2 years ( 2013 and 2015) with a 1000 yard rushers if we didn't have a qb sharing those attempts.  This isn't calculus to figure out.

damn...I been using an abacab....

 

[GoobyPls]

36 minutes ago, CRA said:

Running more outside isn't a speed issue.  Issue is there is no block to ride out there. OT get pushed backwards and kill the play.  Stewart has to cut back in or start losing yards.  

Our run blocking is almost nonexistent. 

Our running blocking is bad, that doesn't mean Stewart is absolved of blame. He's basically a fullback at this point in his career. Almost all his TD are within 5 yards of the goal line, he's among the worst when it comes to runs over 10 yards. 

 

Fact is Cam hasn't had a great running game since 2011. When both Deangelo and Stewart averaged 5 ypc, since then it's been a steady down slope.

[TheRed]

Stewart was damn close last year. Pair that with an MVP behind center, and we had the most successful season in franchise history. 

Good thing we decided to invest in shoring up our OL depth this offseason. Oh.....

[PhillyB]

cam takes a lot of running snaps, stew misses a lot of games.

meh

[CRA]

14 minutes ago, GoobyPls said:

Our running blocking is bad, that doesn't mean Stewart is absolved of blame. He's basically a fullback at this point in his career. Almost all his TD are within 5 yards of the goal line, he's among the worst when it comes to runs over 10 yards. 

 

Fact is Cam hasn't had a great running game since 2011. When both Deangelo and Stewart averaged 5 ypc, since then it's been a steady down slope.

how are you going to pop off 10 yarders when there is no run blocking?  He sees contact at the 1 or line and finds 3-4 yarders.  Watch a Dallas game.  Elliot has massive openings.  Stewart is a bruiser but the wheels to do that job still are under him (he would punish people if he had run blocking instead of making 4 out of 0)

Cam's best  OL was 2011.   Yeah, he had Bell....but the rest of the OL was solid and vet savy.  Bell just couldn't pass block worth a lick.

I have long argued the best overall offensive team that we ever put around Cam was his rookie season.   Never matched that again (and it wasn't a super squad)

[GoobyPls]

4 minutes ago, CRA said:

how are you going to pop off 10 yarders when there is no run blocking?  He sees contact at the 1 or line and finds 3-4 yarders.  Watch a Dallas game.  Elliot has massive openings.

Cam's best OL was 2011.  Yeah, he had Bell....but the rest of the OL was solid and vet savy.  Bell just couldn't pass block worth a lick.

By having better burst. If I'm not mistaken Fozzy (counting the penalties) has more 10 yard runs this season than Stew . And Stewart has 100 more carries.

[CRA]

1 minute ago, GoobyPls said:

By having better burst. If I'm not mistaken Fozzy (counting the penalties) has more 10 yard runs this season than Stew . And Stewart has 100 more carries.

well Fozzy definitely has better burst but we don't really use them in comparable situations and runs.   I mean if we ran Fozzy into trashpiles for a game his ypc would be worse than Stews.

I just think Stew is still good given what he is asked to do.  Now if by some miracle from the heavens above the blocking gave him a HUGE hole and daylight to split a defense....he can't hit the homerun.  So a potential 50 yard TD that a playcall opens up would only be a likely a 25 yarder.....I agree with that.   But that doesn't happen.  Jerome Bettis couldn't of pulled that off either for huge chunks of his still productive window.  All RBs aren't created equal. 

[juliosantos]

that will change when we have leonard busting out runs ;]

[GoobyPls]

34 minutes ago, CRA said:

well Fozzy definitely has better burst but we don't really use them in comparable situations and runs.   I mean if we ran Fozzy into trashpiles for a game his ypc would be worse than Stews.

I just think Stew is still good given what he is asked to do.  Now if by some miracle from the heavens above the blocking gave him a HUGE hole and daylight to split a defense....he can't hit the homerun.  So a potential 50 yard TD that a playcall opens up would only be a likely a 25 yarder.....I agree with that.   But that doesn't happen.  Jerome Bettis couldn't of pulled that off either for huge chunks of his still productive window.  All RBs aren't created equal. 

Isn't it sort of alarming when you're backup had more 10 yard runs in way less carries? And we did use Fozzy in some inside runs this season. The big difference is he's able to out run linebackers, Stewart can't. His lateral speed is almost non existent.