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Bradberry and Worley

FootballLivesMatter

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50 minutes ago, Promethean Forerunner said:

How? Worley's tackling numbers aren't an anomaly. He's solid in run support and a decent open field tackler when he's focused. His coverage skills aren't bad either. 

Say what you will about him but Worley isn't getting a poo ton PI or holding penalties like Waynes or getting torched like Hargreaves every week.

 

37 minutes ago, stbugs said:

Yeah, Waynes is terrible. Taken at #11 in 2015 and he comes in sparingly when someone is hurt. He's looked awful at times as has Hargreaves getting burned for TDs. They should improve, but it really shows you how well our late 2nd round/mid 3rd round CBs are playing as rookies.

His stats are solid but he his coverage skills are sketchy imo. He's still a rookie and there are many aspects of his game that can/will improve with time. He did have a good game yesterday though and has gotten better every week so maybe I'm just being hard/having unrealistic expectations for him. 

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8 hours ago, CPantherKing said:

The Panthers have the worst pass defense in the NFL.

  • 31st in yards per game.
  • 29th in completion %.
  • 27th in TDs.
  • 27th in yards per attempt.
  • They have given up a 95.5 combined rating to QBs.

The 2 things going for the defense are:

  1. 5th in interceptions (led by the LBs) There is not a single CB with multiple interceptions.
  2. 2nd in sacks.

So, the improvement on the defense is due to the DL getting to the QB and the LBs creating turnovers.

Do you believe that everyone, but the 2 rookie CBs are just horrible in the secondary and the rookies do not factor in to why the pass defense has been so bad?

The Panthers are also 30th in the NFL in stopping 1st downs against the passing game. Compare that to the run defense being 10th in the NFL in stopping 1st downs. Then keep in mind that Bradberry and Worley have given up the most 1st downs on the Panthers defense in the running game.

Some may want to forget just how bad the passing defense is and how badly the secondary ranks in the NFL, but the numbers show where the problem is at on the defense. The major problem lies at CB in both the run and passing game.

Opponents have targeted and attacked the rookie CBs in all facets of the game when they are trailing the Panthers in the 2nd half of games - especially the 4th quarter. They have been able to pick up easy 1st downs and chunks of yardage to get in to the red zone. This has unfortunately led to several lost leads and lost games.

 

We are 2nd in sacks?

That got to be a typo......

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43 minutes ago, stbugs said:

It was pretty eye opening to see that outside of the 1st round, there were 8 other 2nd and 3rd round CBs and only Kendall Fuller has gotten more than just sporadic playing time (although done less than our guys) and a few have not even seen the field (1 was released).

CB definitely has a learning curve and I think the plan was probably hoping that Bene and McClain would help them come along a bit slower. I think it is good that they've gotten the experience and that they've been better that those two. Look at Norman, he started some in year 1 due to injuries and then got benched for year 2. He was phenomenal last year and really good in 2014, but his first two years were OK to bad.

Yea, foreal. 

 

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10 hours ago, Verge said:

I mean, they did ask Josh to do a ton of man to man on the opposing receiver. 

They did? when? 

We played so much cover 3 that the Falcons wide receivers joked Norman was the # 1 cover 3 corner in the league last year. 

Norman was incredibly good at his role in cover 3 and overall graded very poorly in the few man-to-man assignments he got. 

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Like Ive been saying Bradberry and worley will be able to be good next year. This year they are getting their feet wet. They have both shown they have the ability but not complete knowledge of the pro game. They will be good next year. We draft another good pass rusher 1st or 2nd rd with some o line help and we will have a good team. Maybe pickup and RB 3rd or 2nd.

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9 hours ago, Cpt slay a ho said:

they've have played a hell of a lot better, but please do not hype them up.....i've seen this same thing happen to bene. hopefully our front office realizes the progress they have made and pair them with a solid vet cb so the can take the next steps.

Bene was really not that good even before he got cut 

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