Some notes from my source

[top dawg]

3 hours ago, bobsfoodbasics said:

 

i don't see the panthers trading down. they already have 8 picks. do they have room on the roster to fit more than 8 players?

 

Hey, we can do like the Pats: make room!

[csx]

9 minutes ago, Nails said:

Yep.  Emmitt, Bo, Herschel, Jamal Lewis, etc.=garbage 

So 1.5 good pros in over 30 years. Exactly. 

But a better way to look at it is the last 10 years. Who has been worth a crap? Lacy had a good season or 2. 

[LinvilleGorge]

Gurley ran for 1100+ yards in 13 games as a rookie. Slipped a little last season, but I mean c'mon, it's the Rams.

[csx]

17 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Gurley ran for 1100+ yards in 13 games as a rookie. Slipped a little last season, but I mean c'mon, it's the Rams.

Correct. I was thinking about him as the one bright spot last week but forgot him just now. Good catch.

I'd rather have Gurley.

[csx]

I don't dislike Fournette at 8 but I don't overly love it.  I just can't get very excited about a running back since there isn't a good track record recently of big time backs making much of an impact. 

[LinvilleGorge]

There's a very good track record of big time RBs making big time impacts when actually surrounded by a good team. Emmitt Smith, Terrell Davis, Marshall Faulk, Edgerrin James, and even though SD never got over the hump I'd put Tomlinson on that list too, Frank Gore too. You can't blame guys like Adrian Peterson and Barry Sanders for their franchise failing to consistently put a team around them. 

[Cpt slay a ho]

Rb just isn't a premier position imo, mostly plug n play. I wouldn't mind fournette but only if we address the current issues with the offense, invest more in the tackle position and don't be content with the possibility oher is coming back and Matt will stay healthy for a season. Get another receiver that can take advantage of teams religiously stacking the box. If this is done while drafting fournette you'll get the results everyone is expecting when drafting fourtnette. You don't,you'll get the same result as the last couple of years, defenders in the backfield before the rb makes it to the line of scrimmage, rendering any rb on our roster useless

 

 

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[csx]

16 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

There's a very good track record of big time RBs making big time impacts when actually surrounded by a good team. Emmitt Smith, Terrell Davis, Marshall Faulk, Edgerrin James, and even though SD never got over the hump I'd put Tomlinson on that list too, Frank Gore too. You can't blame guys like Adrian Peterson and Barry Sanders for their franchise failing to consistently put a team around them. 

That's not recent though.

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, csx said:

That's not recent though.

Name more recent "big time RBs". Like Dave said, the RB position didn't get devalued as much as there wasn't simply a lack of elite RB talent.

[csx]

I am not blaming the players. I'm suggesting big time investment in running backs doesn't show much return on investment. There are various reasons and that is the problem. 

[LinvilleGorge]

I think Hurney paying DeAngelo and Stew like they were future HOFers has jades this fan base against investing heavily in the RB position. Stephen Davis damn near carried us to a Lombardi. Seek carried the Cowboys to the best record in the league.

[Panthers8969]

2 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I think Hurney paying DeAngelo and Stew like they were future HOFers has jades this fan base against investing heavily in the RB position. Stephen Davis damn near carried us to a Lombardi. Seek carried the Cowboys to the best record in the league.

Inb4 someone points out the cowgirls didn't have the best record in the league last year

[csx]

3 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I think Hurney paying DeAngelo and Stew like they were future HOFers has jades this fan base against investing heavily in the RB position. Stephen Davis damn near carried us to a Lombardi. Seek carried the Cowboys to the best record in the league.

That's one example in how many years? We didnt invest a high draft pick or salary in to Stephen Davis. He had one good season for us and 4 good seasons of 11. Also he was a 4th round pick.

Every running back that Dallas has put in has been successful even when the QB situation was bad. Elliott is a good one.  

[csx]

My phone isn't allowing me to edit..meant to add this to original

In like 20 years there are what 2 OR 3 top 10 running backs worth a damn?