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Gantt thinks you're overreacting

natty

By natty,
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cgar, KK, RB, SMF: I don't believe what I'm reading in this thread. Really, it's unbelievable. :o Because you don't agree with what someone has written in his blog you don't feel that he should be writing it. He's a fan too. Freedom of speech be damned. It's more about what you want to hear. Your egos weren't stroked. Gantt had the guts to write what others on this board have failed to point out even though some have tried to carefully point it out in this thread. We're the chickens. :seeya:

If he can state his opinion without demeaning the team's own fans, I'd have no problem with it, but that's not what he does. He has the inability to state his opinion without belittling the fans.

Have you guys read any of your posts in threads where you don't agree with the OP or one of the posts?? You often belittle and demean those that don't agree with you. In fact, I'm not sure you even read the entire post before rushing to counter post; your replies don't always indicate that you do.

I agree with Gantt on this although I don't necessarily agree with his argument.

If I have a pet peeve as a journalist, it's when conventional wisdoms are propped up by something other than facts.

In other words, stating opinions, hunches, and assumptions as if they were confirmed facts to back up your opinion.

It's my 2nd pet peeve right behind people who feel the only way to discuss football is to belittle other fans, even with one word replies, that don't agree with them. And who think that their freedom of speech is more important than anyone else's.

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Gantt had the guts to write what others on this board have failed to point out even though some have tried to carefully point it out in this thread. We're the chickens. :seeya:

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Guts is calling out the Panthers and putting his blow jobbery of this organization's FO on hold...dont want to rock the boat or the gravy train will leave the station

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Guts is calling out the Panthers and putting his blow jobbery of this organization's FO on hold...dont want to rock the boat or the gravy train will leave the station

:idea: Everyone is entitled to their opinion. That means both Gantt and you, Panthro. Honest, we have youngsters dieing just so you can.

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Guts is calling out the Panthers and putting his blow jobbery of this organization's FO on hold...dont want to rock the boat or the gravy train will leave the station

Yogi, is that you?

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cgar, KK, RB, SMF: I don't believe what I'm reading in this thread. Really, it's unbelievable. :o Because you don't agree with what someone has written in his blog you don't feel that he should be writing it. He's a fan too. Freedom of speech be damned. It's more about what you want to hear. Your egos weren't stroked. Gantt had the guts to write what others on this board have failed to point out even though some have tried to carefully point it out in this thread. We're the chickens. :seeya:

Gantt has about as much guts as Fox has the guts to change. Which is none. Guts is calling out the FO and Fox for how horrible they are. Gantt is a constant nut hugger of the Panthers FO. He agrees with almost everything they do regardless how badly they mess up.

If you actually read what I said about him, I said I don't mind him stating an opinion IF he can do it without thinking he's holier than thou. That's the only problem I have with him and he's been doing it more and more this year. The fact that our FO and coach are sucking it up big time right now and Gantt constantly sucking them off while demeaning the fans, only pisses off alot of people who once thought he was a good jounalist. He's a professional journalist who's job is to report. His job relies on Panther fans reading his articles. The same fans he puts down.

Have you guys read any of your posts in threads where you don't agree with the OP or one of the posts?? You often belittle and demean those that don't agree with you. In fact, I'm not sure you even read the entire post before rushing to counter post; your replies don't always indicate that you do.

This is a message board. People are going to state opinions. People are going to disagree. I dont give attitude unless attitude is given to me first. The only exception is when a post is as stupid as any of fignewty's posts.

Gantt is a professional journalist whos job is to report to the fans. Not make them think their opinions are worthless in the process. He's only hurting himself in the long run if he keeps up with this style of journalism.

I agree with Gantt on this although I don't necessarily agree with his argument.

In other words, stating opinions, hunches, and assumptions as if they were confirmed facts to back up your opinion.

It's my 2nd pet peeve right behind people who feel the only way to discuss football is to belittle other fans, even with one word replies, that don't agree with them. And who think that their freedom of speech is more important than anyone else's.

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Well here you go...

FACT: John Fox, Jake Delhomme, The Defense, Special Teams, The FO all suck right now.

FACT: We are ranked near the bottom of the league on both offense, defense, and special teams.

FACT: Us fans watch the games every Sunday or Monday and we see how bad our team sucks. Therefore we have the opinion our team sucks. That opinion IS NOT based on an assumption. It's based on what we see with our own eyes.

FACT: Darin Gantt is a Panthers FO coddler. He decided to ignore all the misshaps this organization has had recently and instead talks about Fox's overall record then compares it to some other coach that I don't give a sh*t about in an attempt to make him look great. He then tries to put Cowher in the same sentence as these 2 coaches.

FACT: Great coaches don't have a winning season followed by a losing season over and over again throughout their entire tenure with a team. That is called being inconsistent. That is called settling with mediocrity.

FACT: Great coaches make changes when things are going bad. They hire coordinators that HELP the team. Not hire coordinators that will only do what he says. They also don't call up a QB who is constantly hurting the team and tell him that he's sticking with him no matter if he stinks it up the next game, or the next game, or the game after that.

FACT: Gantt is a tool.

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Bringing up the Fox vs. Fisher comparison is weak as well. There's some truth to what Gantt is suggesting in that continuity is key to success in this league, but sometimes it can be exactly what YOU don't need!

To end the Fisher vs . Fox comparison, to me, is this simple - I would trade John Fox for Jeff Fisher as a head coach straight up. Fisher is an extraordinary coach. Fox is great in his own right, but I think he needs to learn some things and he'll be even better his next job. His act has apparently fallen on deaf ears now.

I always admired Jeff Fisher, and to see where they differ, and why there is no comparison - Jeff Fisher isn't scared of change and to mix things up. He's not stagnant.

It's been inferred (and to some of us visible) that Fox is loyal almost to a fault. He wouldn't axe Henning and Co. until his job was threatened and was basically forced into it. Now look at Fisher - look at how many OCs and DCs he's been through. You can also attribute that to team's recognizing his ability and hiring his pupils.

Additionally, the biggest point is this - Fisher was attached at the hip to McNair as his QB, as it was Fisher's first full year as the official HC of the Oilers/Titans. Fisher was adamant of his love of McNair as a player, person, and leader of his team. Yet, when the time came, he had to part with McNair when McNair was around 32, or 33... McNair played 2 more years and retired. He did okay with the Ravens, but he wasn't the same.

Fisher got on the Vince Young train, and rode it to the playoffs. When it was clear that Young was having some issues, Fisher sat his a** down and put in a guy that mostly every team thought was 1 week away from retirement and was only collecting a check. Well, he took them to even greater success than Young.

That's where Fox and Fisher are different. That is why people have a problem with Fox. I appreciate everything Fox has done for our franchise, but it's clear that he's scared to make moves and pull the trigger that other coaches make for the better of the team.

Even if Jake wasn't totally done in terms of his career, he should've been pulled from the Arizona game 2 INTs into it. Same for Philly. And honestly, I believe the reason we haven't drafted a true QB or signed any truly talented QB was for Fox to further inflate the cushion that Jake has.

He didn't want to bring anyone in behind Jake that was just as talented or competitive in order to say "He's our best option."

Once again, loyal to a fault.

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