"Where is Jarrett?" Let me give you an observation.

[top dawg]

Like many, I have pondered why the coaches don't seem too motivated to get Dwayne Jarrett more involved in the flow of the offense. He has made some nice catches, and arguably puts one in the mind of Muhsin Muhammad. But, that's just it; Jarrett is not Moose, and we really can't expect much more from him until Moose's skills diminish to the point where it makes more sense to play Jarrett, the ageless wonder that is Muhammad decides to hang up his cleats, Moose decides to play a lesser role and gradually works toward the seamless transition of his protege, or some combination of all three.

Of course the coaches will be a determining factor in gently pushing the situation along. Though some may disagree, Moose probably has at least another good year in him, and I can't see the coaches pushing Moose unceremoniously out the door. The good thing is that Moose has enough class and respect for the game to know when it is time to start standing down. Until then, I don't see any justification that would warrant more play calls for Jarrett than at the current level.

[ShutDwn]

The justification is that you don't allow the defense to only target one receiver as a threat.

Jarrett, Moose, King and Rosario are all good enough players to be a great supporting cast for Smith. The problem is that when Smith plays Jake Delhomme has the biggest blinders ever on. I'm just glad Smith is worth it. I know those players can get open, they aren't being doubled, schemed or anything, if Jake were more of a distributor we would have a much more consistent offense and more guys would be involved.

[CharlotteBeer.com]

You say that you don't see any justification for sending more passes to Jarrett, but then you lament the disappearance of D.J. Hackett?

I just posted a lengthy response to your thread about the disappearance of Hackett. In it, I noted of Hackett the same thing you are now noting of Jarrett: that not only is he playing behind two great receivers in Moose and Smith, he is on a team that runs the ball with a lot of success as well.

It's true that Hackett has missed some games to injury, but he's been inactive on many a gameday so that Jarrett, who needs the experience if he's ever going to be a big part of this offense in the future, can get the few attempts that come his way.

I just don't see how you can give Jarrett, who has less receptions and yards than Hackett, a free pass and consider Hackett a bust. The fact is both are playing the role of a third receiver as well as one can in this offense, where third receivers and tight ends are easily overshadowed by our backs, Smith and Moose.

[Jangler]

I don't understand why the FO brings in WRs or drafts them. That might be the real problem with all these WR we have had, they aren't being used and get disinterested in playing for the team. That has been my only real complaint about the Panthers this year. Not using Jarrett more.

[bigdog_10_2002]

The justification is that you don't allow the defense to only target one receiver as a threat.

Jarrett, Moose, King and Rosario are all good enough players to be a great supporting cast for Smith. The problem is that when Smith plays Jake Delhomme has the biggest blinders ever on. I'm just glad Smith is worth it. I know those players can get open, they aren't being doubled, schemed or anything, if Jake were more of a distributor we would have a much more consistent offense and more guys would be involved.

I agree completely....

The biggest enemy to jarrett, king and rosario is Jake Delhomme. It's hard to become a viable part of the offense when your QB is keyed in on one or two guys.

[top dawg]

You say that you don't see any justification for sending more passes to Jarrett, but then you lament the disappearance of D.J. Hackett?

I just posted a lengthy response to your thread about the disappearance of Hackett. In it, I noted of Hackett the same thing you are now noting of Jarrett: that not only is he playing behind two great receivers in Moose and Smith, he is on a team that runs the ball with a lot of success as well.

It's true that Hackett has missed some games to injury, but he's been inactive on many a gameday so that Jarrett, who needs the experience if he's ever going to be a big part of this offense in the future, can get the few attempts that come his way.

I just don't see how you can give Jarrett, who has less receptions and yards than Hackett, a free pass and consider Hackett a bust. The fact is both are playing the role of a third receiver as well as one can in this offense, where third receivers and tight ends are easily overshadowed by our backs, Smith and Moose.

I pretty much agree with you on the key points, but it is because of Hackett's limited success in Seattle that I do consider him a bust. Hackett has so much potential, but the injuries greatly diminish his worth. Jarrett is pretty much a work in progress as basically stated by the coaches. Hackett was supposed to come here and do his thing (which he has, but unfortunately a good part of that is sitting on the bench due to injury). We could go back and forth about who has made the more productive plays this year, but suffice it to say that coming into the season Hackett had the higher expectations.

[nosuchthingasapanther]

The justification is that you don't allow the defense to only target one receiver as a threat.

Jarrett, Moose, King and Rosario are all good enough players to be a great supporting cast for Smith. The problem is that when Smith plays Jake Delhomme has the biggest blinders ever on. I'm just glad Smith is worth it. I know those players can get open, they aren't being doubled, schemed or anything, if Jake were more of a distributor we would have a much more consistent offense and more guys would be involved.

not necessarily true. jake has done a very good job with ball distribution this season. the only time smith becomes an automatic lock for delhomme is when there's a mismatch and smith consistently gets open. why wouldn't you want to keep feeding him the ball in that situation?

...but if jarrett is on the field, chances are he's jake's first read. he's has made BIG catches with what little playing time he's seen.

imo, he's slowly becoming mr. clutch....with all due respect to proehl.

[CharlotteBeer.com]

I agree completely....

The biggest enemy to jarrett, king and rosario is Jake Delhomme. It's hard to become a viable part of the offense when your QB is keyed in on one or two guys.

If this were last year, I'd agree with you. But if something is working, why mess with it?

The Panthers boast the league's highest scoring offense in the last eight games, in large part due to the running game and the team's biggest playmaker, Steve Smith.

I think you have to take every shot you can to get Steve Smith the ball. Now, when Steve is double covered and their is the risk of forcing the ball, then yes, I think we need to spread the ball around to our other receivers and tight ends.

But as of now, that time is not upon is. When the playoffs come, I think we'll see more looks to our other players, whom the opposing teams won't find much tape on.

[top dawg]

The justification is that you don't allow the defense to only target one receiver as a threat.

Jarrett, Moose, King and Rosario are all good enough players to be a great supporting cast for Smith. The problem is that when Smith plays Jake Delhomme has the biggest blinders ever on. I'm just glad Smith is worth it. I know those players can get open, they aren't being doubled, schemed or anything, if Jake were more of a distributor we would have a much more consistent offense and more guys would be involved.

Point well taken! I actually meant to bring that up, but forgot. But, Delhomme's shortcoming still doesn't justify calling Jarrett's number more than Muhammad's.

[bigdog_10_2002]

If this were last year, I'd agree with you. But if something is working, why mess with it?

The Panthers boast the league's highest scoring offense in the last eight games, in large part due to the running game and the team's biggest playmaker, Steve Smith.

I think you have to take every shot you can to get Steve Smith the ball. Now, when Steve is double covered and their is the risk of forcing the ball, then yes, I think we need to spread the ball around to our other receivers and tight ends.

But as of now, that time is not upon is. When the playoffs come, I think we'll see more looks to our other players, whom the opposing teams won't find much tape on.

I don't have a problem with it as long as we are winning. But it can't be denied that Jake keys in on Smith and the chances for other receivers on this team goes down significantly when smitty's on the field.

[CharlotteBeer.com]

I pretty much agree with you on the key points, but it is because of Hackett's limited success in Seattle that I do consider him a bust.

But that's the point I'm trying to make.

We're incredibly fortunate to have Smith and Moose as our No. 1 and No. 2 recievers. Behind them we have the promising Jarrett, who has come up big in certain games, despite rarely getting the looks.

Then to top that all off, we've got Hackett, who was a huge threat in Seattle, as our No. 4 wide receiver. It just goes to show the depth we have at that position.

Sometimes you just need to step back and realize how far we've come since the days of Keary Colbert and Drew Carter, and just be thankful we've got such a "problem," you know?

[CharlotteBeer.com]

I don't have a problem with it as long as we are winning. But it can't be denied that Jake keys in on Smith and the chances for other receivers on this team goes down significantly when smitty's on the field.

No doubt, but it also can't be denied Steve Smith is our biggest threat at receiver and thus gives us a better chance to win the game.

As I said, if it comes to the point where a defense just takes Smith out of the game, then let's see some passes to Jarrett and the tight ends.

But we haven't gotten to that point yet. :thumbsup:

[top dawg]

But that's the point I'm trying to make.

We're incredibly fortunate to have Smith and Moose as our No. 1 and No. 2 recievers. Then behind the promising Jarrett, who has come up big in certain games, despite rarely getting the looks.

Then to top that all off, we've got Hackett, who was a huge threat in Seattle, as our No. 4 wide receiver. It just goes to show the depth we have at that position.

Sometimes you just need to step back and realize how far we've come since the days of Keary Colbert and Drew Carter, and just be thankful we've got such a "problem," you know?

Oh the dreaded double Cs. That put's a whole new face on things:).

[Davidson Deac II]

We don't throw enough to use Jarrett. Thats all there is to it. If we run less then Jarrett would get more catches.

Our two most prolific passing games this (irt number of completions) were San Diego and at Atlanta. And if you look at the numbers from those games, the passes were spread out fairly well.

We have been averaging about 16 completions a game. Smith gets about 6-8 of those (which he should), Moose gets about 4, and the rest are spread out between Jarrett, Hackett, King, Rosario, Williams, and Stewart.

So whose catches should be reduced so that Jarrett can get more? If anyone says Steve Smith, they should be drawn and quartered, as should anyone who says we should run less.