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Can we all just stop the Shula hate...the guy is a very good play caller and he needs our support.  If we can all get behind him and as the fans show our support it will give him the confidence to be the best play caller in the league like i know he can....The guy is creative but the players juts have to execute.....

 

Lets go for an awesome ride we are about to have next season

 

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Can we all just stop the Shula hate...the guy is a very good play caller and he needs our support.  If we can all get behind him and as the fans show our support it will give him the confidence to be the best play caller in the league like i know he can....The guy is creative but the players juts have to execute.....
 
Lets go for an awesome ride we are about to have next season
 
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I actually agree wit this 100%. Let's do this panther nation!


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Actually, our offense has been somewhat limited--I have no idea what we did in 2015--

He now has weapons.  The main goal this offseason should be 2 things--Cam's mechanics (the shoulder could be a blessing because it may force him to work on his footwork more) and getting more productivity from the WRs.

The OL going to be improved.  I think Ryan will be a good influence on Matt and Matsko will probably be better as well.  Cam will have options to throw he did not have before--RB, slot. 

So we will see Shula with no excuses this year.  I am not anti-Shula, but I am not a fan either. 

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Just now, MHS831 said:

Actually, our offense has been somewhat limited--I have no idea what we did in 2015--

He now has weapons.  The main goal this offseason should be 2 things--Cam's mechanics (the shoulder could be a blessing because it may force him to work on his footwork more) and getting more productivity from the WRs.

The OL going to be improved.  I think Ryan will be a good influence on Matt and Matsko will probably be better as well.  Cam will have options to throw he did not have before--RB, slot. 

So we will see Shula with no excuses this year.  I am not anti-Shula, but I am not a fan either. 

shula will call the plays and get the guys in spots to make the plays, now the players have to go out and make the plays

 

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My concern is not his pre game plans. My concern is his ability to adjust or scrap his game plan during the game if it's not working. No reason to have a 5 step drop pass when the OL can't block instead of trying screen plays. I  think he script the whole game instead of the first 10 or 20 plays then adjust. Take CAM out of the team Shula might not even get hired as a QB coach 

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2 minutes ago, Cam2Ligit2Quit said:

My concern is not his pre game plans. My concern is his ability to adjust or scrap his game plan during the game if it's not working. No reason to have a 5 step drop pass when the OL can't block instead of trying screen plays. I  think he script the whole game instead of the first 10 or 20 plays then adjust. Take CAM out of the team Shula might not even get hired as a QB coach 

Like i said he is not the best play caller but not at the bottom either.  IF you take Shula our of Cam, Cam might be kaepernick

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16 minutes ago, tarheelfan23 said:

Like i said he is not the best play caller but not at the bottom either.  IF you take Shula our of Cam, Cam might be kaepernick

Kaepernick?  Dude you got to be jocking. Cam is the carolina offense. Kaepernick neva was the offense he was just a game manager with a great offense and defense. 

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The offensive coached have been working since the end of last season to revamp this offense.  They worked to learn about other systems they could apply and that along with the new toys (and an upgraded Oline) think we will be please with the results. There is also a new consultant in the mix. Willingness to learn and change are very good traits in an NFL coach.  I too think the Shula bashing should stop.  Let's wait and see the results.

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11 minutes ago, Cam2Ligit2Quit said:

My concern is not his pre game plans. My concern is his ability to adjust or scrap his game plan during the game if it's not working. No reason to have a 5 step drop pass when the OL can't block instead of trying screen plays. I  think he script the whole game instead of the first 10 or 20 plays then adjust. Take CAM out of the team Shula might not even get hired as a QB coach 

I think the problem is that what folks think are easy adjustments to make in game really aren't. For example if Cam is getting pummeled on 5 step drops going to screen passes isn't going to magically change anything. And going to quick timing passes sounds good if you are running a WCO but are not what a Coryell vertical system is built on. If it is a simple adjustment you can pretty much figure the coach who develops a good pregame plan would also actually have planned certain adjustments if the defense changes up based on the likelihood that they have seen other teams make similar adjustments. This is a copy cat league. 

The issue is actually more complex and is usually more about constant adjustments from play to play, teams disguising what they do, and players winning individual matchups as they progress through the game. A DE setting up one move for 3 plays by doing something else and then on 3rd down go to that move. Playcalling gets too much credit or blame while execution and physical talent are actually much more important and are often overlooked or minimized.

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8 minutes ago, Cam2Ligit2Quit said:

Kaepernick?  Dude you got to be jocking. Cam is the carolina offense. Kaepernick neva was the offense he was just a game manager with a great offense and defense. 

Shula let cam be the offence, put him in places to make the plays

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