I've never heard about a player begrudgingly hoisting the Lombardi trophy...

[Bronn]

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

So giving Jake Delhomme that big extension after 2008 was the right thing to do?

I would have shitcanned Jake way sooner than that, so it wouldn't have been on the table. He was never the top at anything, other than lobbing it up for Steve Smith...

Comparing Olsen or TD to Jake effing Delhomme is like comparing apples to oranges.

[darrybear]

Yeah definitely dude! Let's pay everyone way past their primes to keep everyone happy. That worked amazing with Marty Hurney. 
I swear we might have the dumbest fan base in football. I can't imagine there being dumber. 

Why can't you guys think there's a middle ground to this y'all are jumping ship and killing yourselves before anything has even happened what if we find someone who's just right then all of this death and despair talk was for no reason I think you're just going from one extreme to the next in your head when it doesn't have to be like that and I keep seeing people do this FOR NO REASON


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[Peppers90 NC]

12 minutes ago, Bronn said:

Please present evidence that TD, Olsen, Turner, etc. are past their prime.

etc? like there is a long list of players here? Turner like he wasn't one of the biggest players primed to get a deal? And absolutely no one here is suggesting he is past his prime so why you are lumping him there is making you look like you're desperately reaching to make your point..  I get the love for Davis and Olsen but as a "fan" why are you looking at it from their stand point? They are looking out for themselves not the betterment of the team, otherwise their yearning for contract extensions would never have become public that caused distractions.

[Bronn]

To be fair, Jake was probably up there near the top as far as wanting to win/competitiveness goes.

 

But there was no way he should ever be paid like a top tier QB.

[Mr. Scot]

3 minutes ago, Bronn said:

I haven't seen where they have asked for it, but Olsen most definitely is the 1-2 best TE in the league and should be paid accordingly. I don't think TD is asking for top money, just a longer contract?

If we need to trim the fat to get it done, so be it.

If it were as simple as "trimming the fat", none of this would have happened.

We're talking about not being able to extend good young players because we're giving "thank you" contracts to older ones.

 

Just now, Bronn said:

I would have shitcanned Jake way sooner than that, so it wouldn't have been on the table. He was never the top at anything, other than lobbing it up for Steve Smith...

Comparing Olsen or TD to Jake effing Delhomme is like comparing apples to oranges.

Actually it's very accurate.

Again, you pay guys for what they're going to do in the future, not what they've done in the past.

[TheRumGone]

2 minutes ago, Bronn said:

I haven't seen where they have asked for it, but Olsen most definitely is the 1-2 best TE in the league and should be paid accordingly. I don't think TD is asking for top money, just a longer contract?

If we need to trim the fat to get it done, so be it.

 

I think we would both need details that's why this thread is kinda dumb. This is my fear tho. Olsen is already locked in for 2 more years. That's the contract that HE signed. This should be addressed next year. I'm not even sure if Thomas wants a pay raise, I haven't heard but the fear is that a Marty hurney type GM will just give him a buttload of money because of what he represents to the Panthers, not what his actual production will be until he retires. TD is the man, and in my opinion the greatest Panther of all time. But those are my fears and I think they are justified by the way this organization has been run before DG.

[uncfan888]

21 minutes ago, Bronn said:

It's the same for every team, yet almost every year a team rises and becomes a contender.

Every team also loses players.. But you don't hear them bitch about it because the owner and previous GM didn't give them a false sense of being untouchable 

[Ace_Aladdin]

23 minutes ago, Bronn said:

I still haven't seen substantial evidence that either TD or Olsen, or Trai for that matter, have under performed.

If you don't want to pay guys for under performing, then we need to go ahead and cut KB, Funch, Dickson, etc.

I believe this was another issue DG was trying to force to Rivera to play certain type of football and that didn't mesh well with Rivera's scheme

[Hallin'AllDaeDae]

35 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Pay them regardless of whether they're performing because you like them...loss.

Well Olsen hasn't had less than 1 K in a season in how long .. and Thomas Davis is a great tackler still and he makes the team and locker room better, and he's getting a statue

Gettleman firing isn't paying players regardless of whether they're performing, this clearly, clearly isn't the case . We talking about performing players.

[Bronn]

1 minute ago, Peppers90 NC said:

etc? like there is a long list of players here? Turner like he wasn't one of the biggest players primed to get a deal? And absolutely no one here is suggesting he is past his prime so why you are lumping him there is making you look like you're desperately reaching to make your point..  I get the love for Davis and Olsen but as a "fan" why are you looking at it from their stand point? They are looking out for themselves not the betterment of the team, otherwise their yearning for contract extensions would never have become public that caused distractions.

Uhhh because THOSE GUYS ARE ON MY TEAM.

I lumped Trai in there because you know he needs a deal just like I know TD and Olsen need theirs.

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

2 minutes ago, darrybear said:

Why can't you guys think there's a middle ground to this y'all are jumping ship and killing yourselves before anything has even happened what if we find someone who's just right then all of this death and despair talk was for no reason I think you're just going from one extreme to the next in your head when it doesn't have to be like that and I keep seeing people do this FOR NO REASON


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it's a coin flip as to whether a "middle ground" GM would have even kept thomas davis here at all after his three ACL tears.

i'll unequivocally say that gettleman would have canned him.  hurney obviously didn't.

[uncfan888]

Dontari poe was let go by the chiefs.. Did he cry and bitch? No, he signed with another team and was a man about it. It's a fugin business 

[uncfan888]

Just now, The NFL Shield At Midfield said:

it's a coin flip as to whether a "middle ground" GM would have even kept thomas davis here at all after his three ACL tears.

i'll unequivocally say that gettleman would have canned him.  hurney obviously didn't.

Or Jerry told hurney to keep him here

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, Bronn said:

Uhhh because THOSE GUYS ARE ON MY TEAM.

I lumped Trai in there because you know he needs a deal just like I know TD and Olsen need theirs.

Now that's apples to oranges, and I think you know it.