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Luke needs to retire


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Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

I usually judge a poster by their ability to articulate a thought. You're struggling badly. Even more so than usual. Seriously, go to bed. You have to be hammered. You're not one of the more intelligent posters here, but you're not a total sanjay-level simpleton. You've been reduced to that this evening though. Maybe put a breathalyzer on your keyboard. 

 

    So you are doubling down with this "I have nothing, but I will continue to belittle you anyway" tactic? 

 

    And I am the passive aggressive one?

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2 minutes ago, iamhubby1 said:

 

    So you are doubling down with this "I have nothing, but I will continue to belittle you anyway" tactic? 

 

    And I am the passive aggressive one?

You're the one who originally responded to and poo'd my post and then failed to add anything of substance, dumbass. 

I'm not being passive aggressive here, I'm being openly aggressive. 

You're out of your element. I was speaking from a position of direct experience and made a statement based on the qualification that Luke IS diagnosed with a concussion. If he isn't, all that goes out the window.  

 

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5 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

You're the one who originally responded to and poo'd my post and then failed to add anything of substance, dumbass. 

I'm not being passive aggressive here, I'm being openly aggressive. 

You're out of your element. I was speaking from a position of direct experience and made a statement based on the qualification that Luke IS diagnosed with a concussion. If he isn't, all that goes out the window.  

 

 

    LOL. Dude? Are you alright? You have taken this way out of proportion. Like many on this board. I have done a whole lot athletically. Cars, bikes, sports, whatever. What are your qualifications? And is it really relevant?

 

    When it comes to team mates? I draw the line. And until Luke is ruled to have a concussion, he is still a member of the Panthers. I have been at a hospital for a team mate. I am dang sure others have done more.

 

    Grow a pair. Wait for the results. And live with the findings. Until then, have a modicum of decorum.

 

    Take your aggressive azz to bed, I am done with you.

 

 

    

 

  

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Are you done rambling yet? You have failed to address anything that I've actually said in this thread and have continues on with your drunken, borderline incoherent posts while butchering the English language. 

No one cares where you draw the line, but anyone who has actually read through your drivel this evening probably wishes that you'd drawn the line four or five beers ago. 

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All I know is that should he eventually retire due to concussions I hope our team will be smart enough to talk with him and possibly bring him in for a coaching job. The thing about Luke is that he is incredibly smart and has a load of football knowledge. We've seen that during his previous injuries on the sideline. He can be a tremendous asset even if not on the actual playing field. you would always see him on the sideline with a clipboard and usually with a headset as well.

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30 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Are you done rambling yet? You have failed to address anything that I've actually said in this thread and have continues on with your drunken, borderline incoherent posts while butchering the English language. 

No one cares where you draw the line, but anyone who has actually read through your drivel this evening probably wishes that you'd drawn the line four or five beers ago. 

 

    Unlike you, I actually have the balls to quote you. You circumvent me, by not quoting me. Nice trick. Also, I love how you still feel the need to degrade me. Inferior complex much.

 

    Your whole post is nothing but trash. So I will say this to you. If you cannot keep up, let it go. I have yet to berate you. I have been civil to you. Yet, for some strange reason. You have continued to throw insults at me.

 

    So for your edification. You are a non athletic want to be. Who has no idea what it means to be on a team. Yet you expound on mountain biking, and trail riding like they are sports. lol

 

    You have no clue what it is like to lose a team mate. And for all practical purposes, you are unfit to continue this conversation with. So to you I say. Until you can carry on a civil conversation. Phht to you.

 

    If calling folks drunk, and calling out their intelligence is your idea of debate. I can learn to snicker at you from afar.

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12 minutes ago, ichigo1057 said:

All I know is that should he eventually retire due to concussions I hope our team will be smart enough to talk with him and possibly bring him in for a coaching job. The thing about Luke is that he is incredibly smart and has a load of football knowledge. We've seen that during his previous injuries on the sideline. He can be a tremendous asset even if not on the actual playing field. you would always see him on the sideline with a clipboard and usually with a headset as well.

 

    IF, it winds up being a concussion. Then we can talk about the future. Until we have a definitive answer, we are all speculating here. 

 

    Personally, I saw no indication of a concussion. He looked fine on the sideline. He jogged into the tunnel. Maybe, just maybe, the team was being overly cautious with him.

 

    Now, if all that is down the drain, and he is done. THEN yeah, let him coach. He does seem like the type that can both a player, or a coach. Because we all know, that being able to play, does not necessarily make you a good coach.

    

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8 minutes ago, iamhubby1 said:

 

    IF, it winds up being a concussion. Then we can talk about the future. Until we have a definitive answer, we are all speculating here. 

 

    Personally, I saw no indication of a concussion. He looked fine on the sideline. He jogged into the tunnel. Maybe, just maybe, the team was being overly cautious with him.

 

    Now, if all that is down the drain, and he is done. THEN yeah, let him coach. He does seem like the type that can both a player, or a coach. Because we all know, that being able to play, does not necessarily make you a good coach.

    

I hear you. I didn't see the hit so I can't judge based on that since I was at work. I'm just going on what has been said and everything. Personally I think he will be fine and come back but my statement was on the off chance that in the future he was ever forced to hang them up.

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16 minutes ago, ichigo1057 said:

I hear you. I didn't see the hit so I can't judge based on that since I was at work. I'm just going on what has been said and everything. Personally I think he will be fine and come back but my statement was on the off chance that in the future he was ever forced to hang them up.


    I think there is a good chance that when he is done playing, Luke will make a very good coach. He is a great communicator. And to me, that is what makes a great coach. 

 

    Show me, teach me, then communicate to me how the two mesh up. My High School Football Coach, was my Basketball Coach. He was a much better Basketball Coach.

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4 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

This is what I'm hoping for, but also being a long-time fight fan, I've seen plenty of times that when a fighter starts getting KO'd it's over. The chin doesn't recover.

It's not disrespectful to the guy to suggest that he should look out for his long-term health. IMO, it's disrespectful to the guy to ask him to keep on racking up concussions risking probably CTE for a game. He's already a millionaire many times over. He could walk away from the game right now and live out his life in the lap of luxury.

the whole CTE hysteria is a hoax...it has people like you fearing these guys "health" as if they are gonna die/suffer dementia/murder someone ext...players used to get concussions regularly and THE VAST MAJORITY OF THEM ARE ALIVE AND DOING FINE...Seau was a tragedy but I am not sold that was because of football brain injuries...is it possible he suffered mental illness?...people do have mental illness and not all of them play football...but that doesn't fit the narrative does it...the media has been targeting football and will blare a story about former NFL player who dies and scare people with brain scans and next thing you know people are screaming for players to retire prematurely...I have seen headlines about  a H.S. player who "died" playing football and found out he died from freak accident during practice (a log fell on his head)...that is just one example of the tricks being played on your perception of football safety

I certainly wish the best for Luke, I am very fond of him on and off the field but this CTE safety thing is a microcosm of a greater societal problem in America right now- we have turned into a nanny state way too concerned with safety and health and preserving oneself...social mores will have you wear a helmet to use the bathroom

 

you watch

 

*I know this message board is hoplelessly loaded with little social justice warrior liberals who will come out blasting my insensitivity on this issue but so what- not reading your responses I k

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44 minutes ago, Yakk said:

the whole CTE hysteria is a hoax...it has people like you fearing these guys "health" as if they are gonna die/suffer dementia/murder someone ext...players used to get concussions regularly and THE VAST MAJORITY OF THEM ARE ALIVE AND DOING FINE...Seau was a tragedy but I am not sold that was because of football brain injuries...is it possible he suffered mental illness?...people do have mental illness and not all of them play football...but that doesn't fit the narrative does it...the media has been targeting football and will blare a story about former NFL player who dies and scare people with brain scans and next thing you know people are screaming for players to retire prematurely...I have seen headlines about  a H.S. player who "died" playing football and found out he died from freak accident during practice (a log fell on his head)...that is just one example of the tricks being played on your perception of football safety

I certainly wish the best for Luke, I am very fond of him on and off the field but this CTE safety thing is a microcosm of a greater societal problem in America right now- we have turned into a nanny state way too concerned with safety and health and preserving oneself...social mores will have you wear a helmet to use the bathroom

 

you watch

 

*I know this message board is hoplelessly loaded with little social justice warrior liberals who will come out blasting my insensitivity on this issue but so what- not reading your responses I k

You're such a fuging moron. You probably don't vaccinate your kids.

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It all depends on the extent of this concussion. From how he jogged off the field to the locker room I don't suspect it is a major one. 

 

He may elect to keep playing. Or he may decide to retire. 

 

Either way, it is his call and no one else's and should be respected either way.

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50 minutes ago, Yakk said:

the whole CTE hysteria is a hoax...it has people like you fearing these guys "health" as if they are gonna die/suffer dementia/murder someone ext...players used to get concussions regularly and THE VAST MAJORITY OF THEM ARE ALIVE AND DOING FINE...Seau was a tragedy but I am not sold that was because of football brain injuries...is it possible he suffered mental illness?...people do have mental illness and not all of them play football...but that doesn't fit the narrative does it...the media has been targeting football and will blare a story about former NFL player who dies and scare people with brain scans and next thing you know people are screaming for players to retire prematurely...I have seen headlines about  a H.S. player who "died" playing football and found out he died from freak accident during practice (a log fell on his head)...that is just one example of the tricks being played on your perception of football safety

I certainly wish the best for Luke, I am very fond of him on and off the field but this CTE safety thing is a microcosm of a greater societal problem in America right now- we have turned into a nanny state way too concerned with safety and health and preserving oneself...social mores will have you wear a helmet to use the bathroom

 

you watch

 

*I know this message board is hoplelessly loaded with little social justice warrior liberals who will come out blasting my insensitivity on this issue but so what- not reading your responses I k

You still smoke tobacco, right?

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