This team is Gettleman's legacy

[TheRed]

Fair or not, as the years pass, ultimately the legacy Gettleman left behind here will be defined by his failure to field a consistently stable offensive line.

You can argue about some of the controversial player acquisitions or releases until you are blue in the face. But one thing that cannot be denied is, on the whole as far as real quantifiable consistency, we've managed f*ck all with this offensive line the last 4 years.

[ok2h8pep]

People act like this is the fugging NBA where one player can effect the outcome of the game.   News flash - talent isn't that important.  There's 11 guys out there and it doesn't matter if 3 of them are the best ever to play the position - if the other 8 don't know what they're doing or where they're supposed to be it's still going to be a train wreck.

If you have 11 JAG's that are disciplined and well coached and in a system that they can handle then you will beat 11 superstars without those things 99 times out of 100.   It's not like the difference between the best player  in the NFL and the worst player in the NFL is the difference between high school football and the probowl.

I'm not even saying that Ron and Co. are terrible coaches (OK , I am saying that) ... the problem is the same as we saw with FOXY.  When you have an average or below average coaching staff sticking around TOOOOO DAMN LONG  it leads to stagnation.  These players have tuned out the coaches and who can blame them?   Sometimes it's not that the coach is bad, , sometimes it's just time for them to go.

Ron, it's time for you to go.

[TN05]

55 minutes ago, ok2h8pep said:

If you have 11 JAG's that are disciplined and well coached and in a system that they can handle then you will beat 11 superstars without those things 99 times out of 100.

No amount of coaching makes Byron Bell or Mike Remmers acceptable.

[Cpt slay a ho]

Just now, TN05 said:

No amount of coaching makes Byron Bell or Mike Remmers acceptable.

Or Nate Chandler 

[Mvp2014]

Gman was the best thing that happened to this franchise.   No way Gman rolls with these loser coaches over and over.  JR and his incestual meddling ruined this team.  

  Obviously the norman fiasco and kalil(prob JR who forced this)signing was bad.  Riv/shula should have been gone after the SB, definitely last year

[TN05]

7 minutes ago, Mvp2014 said:

Gman was the best thing that happened to this franchise.   No way Gman rolls with these loser coaches over and over.  JR and his incestual meddling ruined this team. 

Gentleman rolled with them his entire tenure

[Mvp2014]

2 minutes ago, TN05 said:

Gentleman rolled with them his entire tenure

I dont believe that was his choice

[TN05]

41 minutes ago, Mvp2014 said:

I dont believe that was his choice

Guess what was his choice?

Rolling with Byron Bell, Nate Chandler, Michael Oher, Michael Remmers, and Matt Kalil as tackles.

Cutting Josh Norman and having nothing but rookies to replace him.

Cutting all of our receivers after 2013.

Letting Ted Ginn go this year.

[Mvp2014]

21 minutes ago, TN05 said:

Guess what was his choice?

Rolling with Byron Bell, Nate Chandler, Michael Oher, Michael Remmers, and Matt Kalil as tackles.

Cutting Josh Norman and having nothing but rookies to replace him.

Cutting all of our receivers after 2013.

Letting Ted Ginn go this year.

And who was available?  Believe it or not guys play where they WANT to play.  Its not always highest bidder wins.  Oher was a nice pass blocker when healthy

The Norman f up stands out as the biggest one  to me.  Rescinding that tag was dumb af.  Ripple effect on other veterans.   Just let him play out the tag and go the next year.  Drafting Shaq and Vern starting to look bad now.  

 

[Krovvy]

1 hour ago, Mvp2014 said:

And who was available?  Believe it or not guys play where they WANT to play.  Its not always highest bidder wins.  Oher was a nice pass blocker when healthy

The Norman f up stands out as the biggest one  to me.  Rescinding that tag was dumb af.  Ripple effect on other veterans.   Just let him play out the tag and go the next year.  Drafting Shaq and Vern starting to look bad now.  

 

Much better players, that people will ignore, and yet always ask "who was available"? The two big ones that come my mind are Morgan Moses, and Andrew Whitworth.

[Mvp2014]

10 hours ago, Krovvy said:

Much better players, that people will ignore, and yet always ask "who was available"? The two big ones that come my mind are Morgan Moses, and Andrew Whitworth.

Whit was never coming here.  Moses could have been nice though it took him some time to adjust.  We need a LT 

[Krovvy]

5 hours ago, Mvp2014 said:

Whit was never coming here.  Moses could have been nice though it took him some time to adjust.  We need a LT 

Why wasn't he? Why? Because Gettleman never bothered to even contact his agent.

[rico6]

19 hours ago, Mvp2014 said:

And who was available?  Believe it or not guys play where they WANT to play.  Its not always highest bidder wins.  Oher was a nice pass blocker when healthy

The Norman f up stands out as the biggest one  to me.  Rescinding that tag was dumb af.  Ripple effect on other veterans.   Just let him play out the tag and go the next year.  Drafting Shaq and Vern starting to look bad now.  

 

And who was available? Many, many, options.