A message to the burn it down brigade

[TN05]

Jesus fugging Christ.

Y'all are losers. You like losing. It makes you feel vindicated to see failures you "predicted" rather than see us succeed. So you're fine blowing up a team that is 48-27 in the last five years, with playoff appearances in three of the last four (likely to be four of the last five) seasons to go through extended mediocrity while our two stars are in their prime, just to feel like you were right.

You're entitled, narcissistic and utterly devoid of logic to the point you look at an 8-4 team set to likely make the playoffs, with an exciting rookie, two all-league players on offense and defense, and the return of our most reliable target and say "fug it, let's tank". You're content to cede our division to New Orleans or Atlanta or, god-forbid Tampa, to demand a moronic rebuilding that isn't needed.

You want to commit team suicide to prove a point, because you like losing. It's what you're comfortable with. Easier to whine and b*tch while losing than look at success in the face. You stand back and worship your fallen idol general manager and want the team to tank to prove you were right... meanwhile real fans want our team to win, and win now. And we see a team that has won twice as many games as we've lost and has our playoff fate in our hands - the hands of a team that's been the playoffs in three of the last four seasons.

You're pathetic, and we deserve better fans. Grow up.

If you're ready to leave after one loss, go ahead. The door's right ahead. Don't let it hit your ass on the way out, and don't try and come back in the playoffs. We don't need you, and this team doesn't need you.

[iBBB]

Even though we lost, my optimism for the team has actually increased. 

[beastson]

My message is this

The Saints haven't been to the playoffs since 2013 season

We have something we can clearly IMPROVE on. We're not in rebuild mode.

[LinvilleGorge]

What can I say, a lot of Panthers fans have become so accustomed to mediocrity that they no longer accept it but actually go on crazy rants because they can't understand why everyone else isn't thrilled with it. 

The real irony is that we DID blow everything up when we fired Gettleman. Not from a coaching staff standpoint obviously, UT absolutely from an organizational direction standpoint which is every bit as impact full as a staff change up. 

[Burnout189]

We played like sh*t today , period. Couple that with horrible officiating calls and I'm not surprised we lost. But this team can very much win out on the rest of it's games. Get into the playoffs and then who knows what could happen.

[Seltzer]

Thank you OP. Of course there are disappointing things from this game, but it is not doom and gloom.

That game did probably seal our fate in terms of the division, but we are still very much in the WC race.

[TN05]

2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

What can I say, a lot of Panthers fans have become so accustomed to mediocrity that they no longer accept it but actually go on crazy rants because they can't understand why everyone else isn't thrilled with it. 

The real irony is that we DID blow everything up when we fired Gettleman. Not from a coaching staff standpoint obviously, UT absolutely from an organizational direction standpoint which is every bit as impact full as a staff change up. 

Playoff appearances in four of five years, three straight division titles in the best division in football, a Super Bowl appearance and a 64% win percentage is not "mediocre".

[electro's horse]

you're first against the wall

[Anybodyhome]

Ever stop to think not everyone's definition of "success" is the same as yours?

[LinvilleGorge]

3 minutes ago, beastson said:

My message is this

The Saints haven't been to the playoffs since 2013 season

We have something we can clearly IMPROVE on. We're not in rebuild mode.

This. Fire Shula and get a real OC. Ron has to stop being so comfortable with continuity. The "evolution" has been the failure that virtually everyone thought it would be. Sign a legit veteran WR to compliment Funchess. Figure out LT. Go ahead and give Moton a crack at it right now. Find out if he can be the answer. Kalil ain't it. Draft or sign a young safety that can RUN. 

[LinvilleGorge]

2 minutes ago, TN05 said:

Playoff appearances in four of five years, three straight division titles in the best division in football, a Super Bowl appearance and a 64% win percentage is not "mediocre".

Way too many fans are hanging their hats on these playoff appearances while ignoring the fact that our record was MEDIOCRE and we only went to the playoffs because our division was pathetic. 15-1 will really skew that overall winning percentage. Right now everyone has to be admitting that 15-1 feels like a fluke. 

[beastson]

3 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

This. Fire Shula and get a real OC. Ron has to stop being so comfortable with continuity. The "evolution" has been the failure that virtually everyone thought it would be. Sign a legit veteran WR to compliment Funchess. Figure out LT. Go ahead and give Moton a crack at it right now. Find out if he can be the answer. Kalil ain't it. Draft or sign a young safety that can RUN. 

We need to seriously dive into free agency. I'm not seeing enough play-makers on this team particularly on the defense side of the ball. 2015 we had that. 11 takeaways, ranked at the bottom of league isn't cutting it.

[Mr. Scot]

12 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Way too many fans are hanging their hats on these playoff appearances while ignoring the fact that our record was MEDIOCRE and we only went to the playoffs because our division was pathetic. 15-1 will really skew that overall winning percentage. Right now everyone has to be admitting that 15-1 feels like a fluke. 

It wasn't a fluke. We legitimately had a great season, a historic one.

But then we got to the biggest game of the year, and our coaches weren't up to the task. Bronco players came away flabbergasted that we didn't do anything they hadn't already seen.

Other teams figured out how to beat our system, and our leaders weren't smart enough to counter.

It's one thing to achieve success. Lots of people can do that. It's another thing entirely to maintain it. That's true greatness.

And unfortunately, that's not us.

[TN05]

22 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Way too many fans are hanging their hats on these playoff appearances while ignoring the fact that our record was MEDIOCRE and we only went to the playoffs because our division was pathetic. 15-1 will really skew that overall winning percentage. Right now everyone has to be admitting that 15-1 feels like a fluke. 

Sure, let's remove the two outliers - 15-1 and 6-10.

That leaves us at 33-17 and two division championships. Definition of mediocre right there.