NFL investigation is NOT ending

[Woodie]

I don't think the NFL wants any part of an investigation, it's too much of a slippery slope and would set a potentially difficult precedence.  However, they need to keep up the appearance of the investigation since JR is still technically associated with the NFL and don't want to appear to simply be sweeping this under the rug.  There are too many eyes on them, and they don't want to take the hit that would come if it looks like they are not taking it seriously.  Basically, IMO, the investigation is a PR ploy to buy time until a sale takes place and everyone can move on.

Also, the NFL cannot compel anyone to talk, and they cannot access records of these non-disclosures (barring a court order, there are legal issues that would prevent it).  So that means that they cannot verify anything about the NDA, or that they even occurred (and if any woman who received a payout for keeping quiet decides to talk, she would likely be in breach of contract and could be required to repay the entire payout, which they likely no longer have - this from a legal article about the situation that I read).  So, it would be extremely difficult for the NFL to get anything to support any kind of discipline against the team.  

[Billy Love]

2 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

 

Uh oh!

The potential for more embarrassing revelations is now back in play.

It's possible the NFL will interview guys like Danny Morrison, Dave Gettleman, Brandon Beane and even Marty Hurney and Ron Rivera to find out what they know.  Questions could be asked of current ownership partners as well.

The rollercoaster ride may not be over just yet.

Rollercoaster ride has just begun.

[pantherclaw]

Don't know why anyone would think it would come to a quick end.

[Daddy_Uncle]

3 hours ago, Tbe said:

Depending on who knew what, this has the potential to cost more people their jobs. My question is what did Tina know? Former top cat. Been with the org for 19 years. You telling me she didn’t know or wasnt a victim herself? Either way she’ll have to explain her lack of action.

I'm sure jerry touched her bo rounds 

[Mr. Scot]

16 minutes ago, Woodie said:

I don't think the NFL wants any part of an investigation, it's too much of a slippery slope and would set a potentially difficult precedence.  However, they need to keep up the appearance of the investigation since JR is still technically associated with the NFL and don't want to appear to simply be sweeping this under the rug.  There are too many eyes on them, and they don't want to take the hit that would come if it looks like they are not taking it seriously.  Basically, IMO, the investigation is a PR ploy to buy time until a sale takes place and everyone can move on.

Also, the NFL cannot compel anyone to talk, and they cannot access records of these non-disclosures (barring a court order, there are legal issues that would prevent it).  So that means that they cannot verify anything about the NDA, or that they even occurred (and if any woman who received a payout for keeping quiet decides to talk, she would likely be in breach of contract and could be required to repay the entire payout, which they likely no longer have - this from a legal article about the situation that I read).  So, it would be extremely difficult for the NFL to get anything to support any kind of discipline against the team.  

If the NFL themselves did the investigation, I'd agree. There is talk of them hiring someone from the outside.

Said previously though that it's plausible they could talk a big game in public but softball the investigation in private.

[NanuqoftheNorth]

2 hours ago, csx said:

He does what the owners want.

They all likely have skeletons in their closet.

Yeah, I'd be very surprised if most of these owners weren't guilty of similar actions to those of JR. 

They'd do well to not to hang J.R. and company out to dry or several of these owners may find themselves in the middle of the league's crosshairs for sexual misconduct.

[Mr. Scot]

6 minutes ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

Yeah, I'd be very surprised if most of these owners weren't guilty of similar actions to those of JR. 

They'd do well to not to hang J.R. and company out to dry or several of these owners may find themselves to be next in the crosshairs of an NFL investigation for sexual misconduct.

Valid point, but by the same token how many politicians, reporters etc have crucified others only to later be found guilty of their own crimes?

Lots of people have no issue with hypocrisy.

[Woodie]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

If the NFL themselves did the investigation, I'd agree. There is talk of them hiring someone from the outside.

Said previously though that it's plausible they could talk a big game in public but softball the investigation in private.

I think the NFL has taken some hard hits to its image lately, and I don't believe they want to open a can of worms that could put them in the same breath as those being taken down in Hollywood.  There has to be some worry that if this lingers, the floodgates could open and things would come out about other owners as well.  So, I have little doubt they just want this to go away.  But, for the time being, they have to keep up the appearance of a legitimate investigation...at least until JR sells.  

 

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, Woodie said:

I think the NFL has taken some hard hits to its image lately, and I don't believe they want to open a can of worms that could put them in the same breath as those being taken down in Hollywood.  There has to be some worry that if this lingers, the floodgates could open and things would come out about other owners as well.  So, I have little doubt they just want this to go away.  But, for the time being, they have to keep up the appearance of a legitimate investigation...at least until JR sells. 

But which is the harder hit: Finding out embarrassing details or looking like you're orchestrating a cover up?

[NanuqoftheNorth]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

Valid point, but by the same token how many politicians, reporters etc have crucified others only to later be found guilty of their own crimes?

Lots of people have no issue with hypocrisy.

The fallout for the Panthers organization will be largely dictated by how well the league can control the media narrative. 

Right now there is blood in the water and the media sharks are circling BOA stadium.

It may already be too late for other league owners to escape the media's scrutiny.

• In male-dominated industries like construction, where women are seen as interlopers, women experience high levels of harassment.

https://www.vox.com/identities/2017/10/15/16438750/weinstein-sexual-harassment-facts

[Mr. Scot]

3 minutes ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

The fallout for the Panthers organization will be largely dictated by how well the league can control the media narrative. 

Right now there is blood in the water and the media sharks are circling BOA stadium.

It may already be too late for other league owners to escape the media's scrutiny.

What's tough here is that it seems like an awful lot of people were aware of what was happening.

All it takes is one person to spill their guts and boom!

[Woodie]

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

But which is the harder hit: Finding out embarrassing details or looking like you're orchestrating a cover up?

Which is why I think the NFL will go through the motions of a real investigation until they can justify ending it.  And that time will come when JR sells and is no longer associated with the league.  Investigations generally take a long time, and investigations involving such serious and complicated issues as these take even longer.  So, I fully expect that any investigation will still be in the early stages when the team sells.  So, barring something unforeseen coming out of the woodwork, I don't expect anything else to come of this, and the investigation will quietly fade away.

 

[NanuqoftheNorth]

4 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

But which is the harder hit: Finding out embarrassing details or looking like you're orchestrating a cover up?

Right about now, Goodell might be thinking it would have been better if Jerry Jones had won the fight for a new league commissioner.

[Mr. Scot]

5 minutes ago, Woodie said:

Which is why I think the NFL will go through the motions of a real investigation until they can justify ending it.  And that time will come when JR sells and is no longer associated with the league.  Investigations generally take a long time, and investigations involving such serious and complicated issues as these take even longer.  So, I fully expect that any investigation will still be in the early stages when the team sells.  So, barring something unforeseen coming out of the woodwork, I don't expect anything else to come of this, and the investigation will quietly fade away.

All very plausible.

Gotta wonder if outside forces will put pressure on the league in the midst of this. Not great timing for this to all come out in the middle of the #metoo movement.