Got PSL's?

[Nails]

1 minute ago, carpanfan96 said:

No it's a probable chance actually, hence why I said the NFL isn't out of its stadium bit. They want Buffalo to fund a new stadium there. 

 

The Raider vote was a bit of a threat to all NFL cities, play ball with us and do what we want or get out of the way. NFL is using Toronto in this situation. 

So, New owners buy in and they want a some stadium with the chance at events and a super bowl and to make the value of the team go up to what they paid for it. Makes complete business sense, if I was in position to buy them I'd do the same thing and I'm a fan because buying the team is an investment and you want return on that investment. 

The Raiders play in a $HITHOLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! built in the 60s.  No comparison to BOA.  AND, unlike the Panthers/Carolinas, they’re second fiddle in the Bay Area.

[carpanfan96]

10 minutes ago, Nails said:

The Raiders play in a $HITHOLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! built in the 60s.  No comparison to BOA.  AND, unlike the Panthers/Carolinas, they’re second fiddle in the Bay Area.

The Rams moved from the 21st market to the second and doubled in value. It's a bigger market then Charlotte. Just saying. San Diego is a bigger market, so is Oakland. 

 

Oakland agreed to build a stadium for the Raiders but the NFL voted to move them to have that has leverage. Also just saying.

NFL didn't make those moves on accident, they did them with a long term goal in mind. 

If the Rams moved and doubled in value from the 21st market to the 2nd, then add the new stadium and the value goes up even more. if you then move Charlotte to Oakland with a new stadium and the value once again nearly doubles...

 

add new teams to the cities that lost teams that are big enough and you've made the value of the NFL go up almost 10b dollars with just a handful of new stadiums and some new expansion teams. 

 

What I'm saying is Oakland and Toronto are real threats with enough population and cities willing to build new stadiums so the threat is still there just as much as it always has been. 

[Smithers]

6 hours ago, Nails said:

There is no other market for them to go, I’m also referring mostly to the new stadium talk NONSENSE.

While I doubt they move, I do think there are other NFL markets. San Antonio?  Salt Lake City?

[Nails]

1 minute ago, carpanfan96 said:

The Rams moved from the 21st market to the second and doubled in value. It's a bigger market then Charlotte. Just saying. 

15+ million and growing (unlike STL) in the football crazed Carolinas is infinitely more appealing to anyone with a brain than STL.  And they ‘ain’t paying.  It’s simply a non-starter.  Hot air.

[carpanfan96]

3 minutes ago, Nails said:

15+ million and growing (unlike STL) in the football crazed Carolinas is infinitely more appealing to anyone with a brain than STL.  And they ‘ain’t paying.  It’s simply a non-starter.  Hot air.

Wasn't using st Louis, was using Oakland who was willing to pay, just not as much as LV.

Because that market move from Oakland to LV doesn't make sense population or market wise by itself. 

[Nails]

10 minutes ago, Smithers said:

While I doubt they move, I do think there are other NFL markets. San Antonio?  Salt Lake City?

Leaving the 15+ million football crazed Carolinas to be the 3rd Texas team in the far less corporate city of San Antonio?  Would never be approved.  No way.

Salt Lake is simply laughable.  Cute little city but not even in the universe of being enough to leverage our taxpayers into giving the dying NFL taxpayer money for a new stadium.

[Porn Shop Clerk]

lol PSL stands for Pyramid Scheme, Losers!

[Nails]

6 minutes ago, carpanfan96 said:

Wasn't using st Louis, was using Oakland who was willing to pay, just not as much as LV.

Because that market move from Oakland to LV doesn't make sense population or market wise by itself. 

Oakland was most certainly NOT willing to pay.  Leaks, sewage, crap, etc. have flooded that place for YEARS.  Night and day to current day BOA.  Oakland is so broke it may well lose the A’s as well, to go with the Warriors and Raiders who are gone.

[carpanfan96]

3 minutes ago, Nails said:

Oakland was most certainly NOT willing to pay.  Leaks, sewage, crap, etc. have flooded that place for YEARS.  Night and day to current day BOA.  Oakland is so broke it may well lose the A’s as well, to go with the Warriors and Raiders who are gone.

here

Schaaf said officials are offering a solid plan to build a $1.3 billion stadium on the current site of the Coliseum, boasting that financial partner Fortress would commit $600 million as an investment or loan to fully fund the project.

 

 

NFL turned that down because LV was willing to builld a 2.1b stadium. I'm not saying the team moves, but a new 2b stadium is coming with new owners. I'd be willing to bet it's a stipulation of the NFL to Charlotte to keep the team in place. 

 

[Nails]

6 minutes ago, carpanfan96 said:

here

Schaaf said officials are offering a solid plan to build a $1.3 billion stadium on the current site of the Coliseum, boasting that financial partner Fortress would commit $600 million as an investment or loan to fully fund the project.

 

 

NFL turned that down because LV was willing to builld a 2.1b stadium. I'm not saying the team moves, but a new 2b stadium is coming with new owners. I'd be willing to bet it's a stipulation of the NFL to Charlotte to keep the team in place. 

 

Pure, utter hogwash/politically trying to save face.  The city of Oakland knew their stadium was a 5 decade old dump and that the Davis family is willing to move based on history obviously.  Oakland is simply a ghetto in a broke state that can’t afford it.

[KillaCamNewton]

7 hours ago, Paa Langfart said:

A PSL is a license to have a crack at buying season tickets ,  it is not an investment opportunity and would like to see the people in this thread who are talking about rioting show me where it was ever advertised as an investment .  Also  I cant think of any license that doesn't expire at some point and need to be renewed by purchasing a new one.

It is an investment. My family has had them since the first season. 2 seats row 5 in the lower bowl in the endzone. They were mayyyybe $8-10k back in 93. The face value of one of the seats each game is about $100 and resell is about $200. Considering we moved from NC to AZ in 2002 and we sell every game to different friends and family in NC, we’ve mad a profit of about $1600 for the last 15 years. Thats just from selling the tickets. Imagine if we actually sold the PSL and how much more its worth now than it was in 93.

[KillaCamNewton]

1 hour ago, Nails said:

Leaving the 15+ million football crazed Carolinas to be the 3rd Texas team in the far less corporate city of San Antonio?  Would never be approved.  No way.

Salt Lake is simply laughable.  Cute little city but not even in the universe of being enough to leverage our taxpayers into giving the dying NFL taxpayer money for a new stadium.

Not to mention the entire city is Mormon and football is played on...you guessed it...Sundays. The Utah Jazz have only had a handful of home games on Sundays and they were playoff games

[blackcat]

8 minutes ago, KillaCamNewton said:

It is an investment. My family has had them since the first season. 2 seats row 5 in the lower bowl in the endzone. They were mayyyybe $8-10k back in 93. The face value of one of the seats each game is about $100 and resell is about $200. Considering we moved from NC to AZ in 2002 and we sell every game to different friends and family in NC, we’ve mad a profit of about $1600 for the last 15 years. Thats just from selling the tickets. Imagine if we actually sold the PSL and how much more its worth now than it was in 93.

Unfortunately, that PSL isn’t worth much now that the team is up for sale and a new stadium is coming sooner than later.  Who’s going to buy PSL’s now? Nobody, I’d suspect.

[AggieLean]

7 hours ago, Nails said:

If it occurs before 2030 then there should be riots that put September 2016 to shame.

2030?!?! The Panthers will need a new stadium before then. That’s 12 years from now, and add that on to a stadium that’s already 20 years old