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A-Rob, Watkins? Not likely. The money is looking just too funny

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1 minute ago, Lumps said:

We should be releasing Kalil to give us some money, this is classic Hurney mistake. Shephard needs to be releases. Should have a cheaper kicker, like Butker, to help out. I can keep going. All the things we should have done add up even the small things and would give us more money to help sign playmakers we desperately need.

I don't know that we should get rid of Kalil. I certainly don't believe it should be done nonchalantly. Furthermore,  there is a compelling reason to wait until at least after the draft, if not into the preseason to do it.  

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1 hour ago, thomas96 said:

Alternative facts here...?

2 out of the three won. Falcons really should have won they just blew it. All of them had huge FAs before winning and all of them paid players in the short term. Fact: Building though the draft and dollar picking FA doesn't win championships. 

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Yeah, it's a lot of money, but when you look at the direction our roster is moving, it makes sense. The bottom line is that the winning formula in this league is no longer running the ball and stopping the run. While those things are important, and the elite teams do them well, they aren't what drives most team success. We've already cut Stewart and Johnson, and will likely not resign Star and Norwell. Those guys did make some contribution to the passing game, it was a lot of salary devoted to primarily helping the run game. Now, what does win in the modern NFL? Big plays in the passing game and rushing the passer. So it follows that we need to use the money they freed up to push our roster in that direction. Watkins would be a perfect fit, and while the cost may same too high, an elite downfield threat would reshape this offense overnight. Yeah, we need to shore up our lines and find a solid complement to McCaffrey, but we don't need big money contract type guys there, just solid role players. The problem is, for this to make sense, we can't really sign him to a short term contract, it would have to be a 4+ year deal. It would start out looking expensive but become a bargain after a couple years, or even earlier if he performs up to his potential. 

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14 hours ago, top dawg said:

 

Yeah,  @thomas96 already said that,  and that was my response. 

I suppose that Hurney could justify that to a new owner,  but it still wouldn't be a good look,  especially if it doesn't work.  There is even more justification not to back load a contract when guys have injury histories.  It may be viewed as an unnecessary gamble indicative of being too concerned with the short term at the expense of the long term.  Moreover you have to realize that Jerry Richardson is still the owner of the team, and a lot of this is going to come down to how he feels about the situation.  Would he really let Hurney go down the same rab---err,  snake hole twice? I know that everyone wants to believe that it's the same old Hurney,  but he has compelling reasons not to do this. 

So what if it works? What if it’s a necessary gamble?

 

What if Watkins goes on to become a perineal 1000 yard receiver with Cam, and it turns out we got him for a bargain. 

 

Look at what Olsen was before Cam, Watkins can have a turn around like that if not better. If we have to overpay and cut someone for it, so be it. It’s time to to a risk

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1 hour ago, GoobyPls said:

So what if it works? What if it’s a necessary gamble?

 

What if Watkins goes on to become a perineal 1000 yard receiver with Cam, and it turns out we got him for a bargain. 

 

Look at what Olsen was before Cam, Watkins can have a turn around like that if not better. If we have to overpay and cut someone for it, so be it. It’s time to to a risk

We'll see what Hurney does.  Believe me,  I'm not gonna cry if we get Watkins.  

Cutting Kalil and Shepard may almost pay for him, so there may not even be a need to back load anything,  and even if his contract was back loaded,  the amount could be something very manageable (and/or perhaps worked into a longer term extension if he proves his weight in gold).  

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