Is Ryan Kalil still safe?

[Mr. Scot]

Read that tere's a bonus in Kalil's contract that makes the cap savings for cutting him a few million lower if he's not cut by sometime tomorrow.

With all that's happened to date, is Ryan still safe?

[Riv]

Based on open holes and current cap, I'd say the writing is on the wall....

[t96]

Yes but I bet we restructure his contract, along with several other players'.

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, thomas96 said:

Yes but I bet we restructure his contract, along with several other players'.

How? There are no future years to push money into and he's already said he's retiring after this year. If we alter his contract it's going to have to be a straight up pay cut.

[Proudiddy]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

Read that tere's a bonus in Kalil's contract that makes the cap savings for cutting him a few million lower if he's not cut by sometime tomorrow.

With all that's happened to date, is Ryan still safe?

Now with Poe, I'm really thinking there is going to be some corresponding moves.  We don't know if the Mathieu and Crabtree rumors are legit, but even of they aren't, we know we've shown interest in TE and RB (Willson and Rawls), so they have to clear room if they plan on addressing any or all of those I would think.  

I'm just about 100% certain Shepard is gone regardless.

[RumHam]

Honestly after Poe, we might just be done. If they finally announce Shepherd gets designated, then so be it that will help. But good god as much as i like the safeties in the draft, i don't want to go into this draft having to depend on a position. 

[ras977]

RK has to go to move forward-hate to say it.

[t96]

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

How? There are no future years to push money into and he's already said he's retiring after this year. If we alter his contract it's going to have to be a straight up pay cut.

Panthers could convert all but $1.015M of Ryan Kalil $4.5M base salary into signing bonus along with his $1.5M 3rd day of league year roster bonus while adding 4 dummy/voidable years to create $3.988M of cap room. There would be $3.988M of dead money in 2019 when Kalil retires.

 

Will hurt us in the long run but easy to clear space for this season.

[LinvilleGorge]

I think we're going to add a veteran safety but I think it'll be a typical Panthers fashion bargain basement safety. Like it or not, that's just been the Panthers' philosophy at the safety positions for most of the franchise's history and especially during the Rivera era. Build a strong front seven and try to piece together a secondary on the back end, especially at safety.

[Riv]

1 minute ago, thomas96 said:

Panthers could convert all but $1.015M of Ryan Kalil $4.5M base salary into signing bonus along with his $1.5M 3rd day of league year roster bonus while adding 4 dummy/voidable years to create $3.988M of cap room. There would be $3.988M of dead money in 2019 when Kalil retires.

 

Will hurt us in the long run but easy to clear space for this season.

Just cut him, Larsen will play more games than RK even if he still on the roster when 2018 kicks off.

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, thomas96 said:

Panthers could convert all but $1.015M of Ryan Kalil $4.5M base salary into signing bonus along with his $1.5M 3rd day of league year roster bonus while adding 4 dummy/voidable years to create $3.988M of cap room. There would be $3.988M of dead money in 2019 when Kalil retires.

 

Will hurt us in the long run but easy to clear space for this season.

Ryan would be crazy to go for that. Once he retires, the Panthers could come after him for that remaining unearned bonus money. I don't think Hurney would if that's the agreement they made, but there's no guarantee that Hurney will still be the GM.

[t96]

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I think we're going to add a veteran safety but I think it'll be a typical Panthers fashion bargain basement safety. Like it or not, that's just been the Panthers' philosophy at the safety positions for most of the franchise's history and especially during the Rivera era. Build a strong front seven and try to piece together a secondary on the back end, especially at safety.

I bet we do add more at safety in FA but I'm damn certain we take one this year in the first 2 days of the draft, very possibly day 1.

[Byrdman4real]

2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I think we're going to add a veteran safety but I think it'll be a typical Panthers fashion bargain basement safety. Like it or not, that's just been the Panthers' philosophy at the safety positions for most of the franchise's history and especially during the Rivera era. Build a strong front seven and try to piece together a secondary on the back end, especially at safety.

Kenny Vaccaro?

 

 

[LinvilleGorge]

Just now, Byrdman4real said:

Kenny Vaccaro?

 

 

Based on how often safeties have bounced between the Saints and Panthers in recent years, it wouldn't be surprising.