Hurndog get me one of these guys!!

[frash.exe]

can we stop referring to him as hurndog(dawg)? it’s one of the cringiest fuging things this forum has come up with.

[steven8989]

1 hour ago, WOW!! said:

I'm going to make this point once.. I know this player was bad here and that player was bad there.. But for some reason more than not Rivera system gets the best out of players.. Kurt Coleman was a JAG barly making roster in Philly and other places.. Dam near pro bowler here.  Mitchell was a 2nd round bust for the Raiders .. Pro bowler here.. Maybe we are lucky and our coach system gets the best out of dumpster players.. 

I want these players because they carry a attitude and have certain skills that fit what we need perfectly.. Mitchell is fast and a hitter... In Rivera system that's all he needs to do for us and he puts up near pro bowl numbers ..

Vaccaro is a 1st round talent.. A sure tackler and a solid in the box safety who can cover .. I can see a lot of things Rivera can do with him and Shaq on the field together..

Yeah Mitchell was awesome!!!! Oh my bad awesome at getting personal fouls for his hard hitting. NFL don't let you do that anymore, we don't need all those penalties. Which idk if that matters we ass the least penalized team last year and still couldn't win ball games.

[WOW!!]

2 minutes ago, steven8989 said:

Yeah Mitchell was awesome!!!! Oh my bad awesome at getting personal fouls for his hard hitting. NFL don't let you do that anymore, we don't need all those penalties. Which idk if that matters we ass the least penalized team last year and still couldn't win ball games.

TD gets personal fouls and penalties as well right?? I never seen you bring that up when discussing him..

All I know when Mitchell was here he had 66 tackles 4 sacks and 4 ints and a lot of WR heads were on a swivel .. That's pro bowl numbers and a intimidation factor we need at safety...

[jumpman910]

The safety market is slow for two reasons:

1. The class as a whole have put a premium price on their services that nfl teams feel is too high and tyrann taking 7 million didn't do the market any favors 

2. Most teams are just going to draft a cheaper guy since the safety class is such a deep one. Comparable or better talent at a cheaper cost. Hell rookies like Jackson, Williams, Baker, Hooker and Adams all played exceptionally better than most of the FA safeties available.  

[mc52beast]

You better hope our D is good because unless we somehow get better at the wr position there’s no way we keep up with the Aints and Cons

[CPcavedweller]

Mitchell would definitely bring that edge back that we've been missing. Coleman has an edge but he is confined in his position. Mitchell roaming with attitude certainly causes the guys going over the middle and along the outside some concern. 

[CPcavedweller]

2 hours ago, WOW!! said:

Rivera had a history of this in his years as a DC.. You can see the pattern of where ever Rivera went to be DC.  That teams defense was immediately top 10... Chicago to Philly to San Diego.. Wilkes is good but it's Rivera system..

This is exactly why I like Rivera. He understands his strength as a leader and a defensive mind. Bringing in Turner should allow for another guy who had success as a head coach to fill that leadership void on the offensive side. Seeing Cam Newton being taught by Dorsey always made me cringe because while Dorsey was a decent college QB at Miami, I always had doubts that he could PUSH Cam to the next level. Cam is a confident guy and is confident in his ability; he has to have respect for the person coaching him to properly make changes and the only person I believe he respects, as a true leader, is Rivera.