If the League is "Dying" and Losing Popularity..

[pantherj]

8 hours ago, PantherCam213 said:

I am a baby boomer and know exactly no one who fits this description.  

Kids these days.  Where do they get this stuff?

Your argument is that you are a boomer and don't know anyone like that so they don't exist? You think I made that up out of my imagination? 

[pantherj]

4 hours ago, Jon Snow said:

Do you have any concrete data to back this up or is this just your opinion?

As a Boomer myself everything you said here is complete and utter horseshit.   I do not care one iota about these protests nor do I care about anyone's political agenda. 

Based on my experience with the folks in my generation I have found that an overwhelming majority are tired of being labeled by no nothing whiners that think the world revolves around them.

But I'm sure you can find a few of my generation that fit your narrative, just like I can find a few of yours that fit that narrative as well.  

 

 

Do you remember the anti-war protests and civil rights changes that took place in America? Was everyone in your generation in favor of these changes and protests? No need to answer these questions. You have acknowledged in your post that some boomers fit my description. In that case everything I said isn't complete horseshit.

You are one of the many boomers who were on the right side of the heated political struggle that took place during that time. I'm not lumping all boomers together.

Gen X isn't a collection of perfect people. Nor Gen Y, Millennials, Greatest Generation, or name any generation and you can find a sub group of terrible people. I probably shouldn't have limited my original post to a sub group of Baby Boomers because now Boomers think I mean ALL Boomers. I don't mean all Boomers.

[PantherCam213]

7 hours ago, pantherj said:

Your argument is that you are a boomer and don't know anyone like that so they don't exist? You think I made that up out of my imagination? 

Of course not.  My argument is that you claim 'In order to understand the dip in ratings and NFL popularity you have to understand the baby boomer generation." Then you proceed to narrow your generalization to those who hated the war protests  and the civil rights protests. Then you suggest that this admitted subset of a generation is "permanently scarred" and "extremely sensitive".  

Do I think this portion of our population is enough to effect the ratings of the NFL?  No.

[MasterAwesome]

The act of kneeling is just about the most humbling and respectful gesture or stance you can partake in. I find kneeling during the anthem to be fundamentally more respectful than simply standing. But I guess since people aren’t used to it and they need something to be outraged about at all times, then it’s disgustingly disrespectful to the country and the military. You’d think they were sitting and raising their middle finger towards the flag.

[pantherj]

1 hour ago, PantherCam213 said:

Of course not.  My argument is that you claim 'In order to understand the dip in ratings and NFL popularity you have to understand the baby boomer generation." Then you proceed to narrow your generalization to those who hated the war protests  and the civil rights protests. Then you suggest that this admitted subset of a generation is "permanently scarred" and "extremely sensitive".  

Do I think this portion of our population is enough to effect the ratings of the NFL?  No.

Your disagreement is not that these people I spoke of exist, but that there are not enough of them to effect NFL ratings?

[PantherCam213]

1 hour ago, pantherj said:

Your disagreement is not that these people I spoke of exist, but that there are not enough of them to effect NFL ratings?

The people you spoke of may exist but not in numbers that represent the baby boomer generation as a whole and not in numbers that would tic the tide of the NFL.

Spin that how you will.

[Snake]

20 hours ago, PantherCam213 said:

I am a baby boomer and know exactly no one who fits this description.  

Kids these days.  Where do they get this stuff?

Not enough spankings from y'all baby boomers. Should had beat some respect into them. 

[Jangler]

10 hours ago, MasterAwesome said:

The act of kneeling is just about the most humbling and respectful gesture or stance you can partake in. I find kneeling during the anthem to be fundamentally more respectful than simply standing. But I guess since people aren’t used to it and they need something to be outraged about at all times, then it’s disgustingly disrespectful to the country and the military. You’d think they were sitting and raising their middle finger towards the flag.

can we get an american pie flag for this one post alone?

@Jeremy Igo

Protest is a fundamental right of Americans. I have no problem with protest, I'm a hippie after all.. @TheRed   

But an employer not wanting to hire somebody for whatever reason, is strangely also an American right. 

[tiger7_88]

On 5/4/2018 at 5:58 AM, PantherCam213 said:

I am a baby boomer and know exactly no one who fits this description.  

Kids these days.  Where do they get this stuff?

Yeah, that was some psycho-babble BS, but it probably makes him feel better about himself, which is what his generation is all about anyway.

[tiger7_88]

22 hours ago, Icege said:

All three are hard line conservatives that vote based on party rather than policies.

Because only hard line conservatives do that.

22 hours ago, Icege said:

Mind you, I don't think that everybody butt hurt over players kneeling is a belligerent racist (nor do I believe that baby boomers are).

How very open-minded of you.

22 hours ago, Icege said:

I just think that those crying about the kneeling are belligerently ignorant

What I just said above?  Nevermind.

[Gin and Juice]

No one gives a flying fug about the protest, especially when the one’s protesting contradict themselves at every turn! The whole platform of these “protest” are laughable at best! We all know CK didn’t start it and we all know the real reason why he did it! Bad publicity is still publicity.

 

What people hate is the politicization of the sport! Especially the invasion by non-traditional NFL fans that want to annoint themselves the PC police. I get force fed an unhealthy diet of “socialism” everyday and I tend to seek out things that aren’t politicized during my own time. I’m giving the NFL this year, but if Goodell can’t get this crap under wraps then I’m gone! The alarming part, 80% of my personal acquaintances that are football enthusiasts are in the same boat, while the 20% I know have already left. 

All these so called fans screaming, “Fine, we don’t need you all anyway! Please leave you fugging racist”, well when we leave, the sport dies.

[tiger7_88]

10 hours ago, MasterAwesome said:

But I guess since people aren’t used to it and they need something to be outraged about at all times, then it’s disgustingly disrespectful to the country and the military.

You don't get to decide what *I* find disrespectful.

I served for 7 years.  During my active duty, I had two very good friends buried with that flag draping their coffins during their funeral ceremonies.  One of those coffins was empty because the only things we found indicating what had happened to him were random pieces of his F-18 in the water and his flight helmet with his name on it.

I can damn well perceive disrespect to that honored flag in any way I wish and YOU don't get to decide that for me.

[Gin and Juice]

1 minute ago, tiger7_88 said:

You don't get to decide what *I* find disrespectful.

I served for 7 years.  During my active duty, I had two very good friends buried with that flag draping their coffins during their funeral ceremonies.  One of those coffins was empty because the only things we found indicating what had happened to him were random pieces of his F-18 in the water and his flight helmet with his name on it.

I can damn well perceive disrespect to that honored flag in any way I wish and YOU don't get to decide that for me.

Nailed it!

The basic right that all these “PC Policepersons”  are overlooking that’s driving fans from the sport! The more someone tries to shame people into what and how to think, the more their arguments become hypocritical and laughable. 

Goodell could have put an end to all the nonsense by just mandating teams stay in the locker rooms during the National Anthem. If player’s could remove their heads from their privileged behinds long enough to understand that how fans chose to spend their time and money is their right, then much of this would go away, if not all would go away

[MasterAwesome]

1 hour ago, tiger7_88 said:

You don't get to decide what *I* find disrespectful.

I served for 7 years.  During my active duty, I had two very good friends buried with that flag draping their coffins during their funeral ceremonies.  One of those coffins was empty because the only things we found indicating what had happened to him were random pieces of his F-18 in the water and his flight helmet with his name on it.

I can damn well perceive disrespect to that honored flag in any way I wish and YOU don't get to decide that for me.

Of course you can...anyone can perceive disrespect from literally anything. If I have an inflated ego and someone I considered “lesser” even breathed the same air as me, I could perceive disrespect from that. I could perceive disrespect from someone giving me $10,000 on the street because I was wearing a dirty shirt and they thought I was homeless. Hell, I could perceive disrespect from something completely random like someone wearing a blue shirt. Just because you *can* feel disrespected by something, doesn’t make it logical. You have the right to feel disrespected by the kneeling, but unless you can explain why you find it disrespectful, then I have the right to my own opinions in thinking that it’s nonsensical.