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Could Rip Scherer be part of Jakes problem

jpo287

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First off, I am not a Jake apologist and and not looking for excuses. I realize that Jake's problems started last year against Arizona. But usually, Jake has a bad game and then bounces back after a game or two. Needless to say, there hasn't been any bounce back this year. And while Jake has never been a great QB, he has always been better than what we are seeing this year. So I got to thinking and am wondering if the new QB coach, Rip Scherer, could be part of the problem.

I looked up his numbers while in Cleveland. In the four years he was the QB coach, they threw 70 TD's to 82 INT's. Of course he didn't have the best talent to start with but still, 70 TDs to 82 INTS! And this was across all four years he was there. In fact, they threw more INTs than TD's in three of his four years. So, could Scherer be part of the problem with Jake this year? His QBs do have a history of being turnover prone.

Again, I am not looking for excuses...just wondering???

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I still think Jake really started looking awful after his tommy john surgery. Quite sad too since right before he was injured he looked better than he ever has before.

Even last year he had his share of bad games.

Actually Jake wasn't too bad last year. He had the bad game against Tampa and Oakland throwing 7 INT in those two games. He only threw 12 INTs all year though which means he only threw 5 INT in the other 14 games. And how about those passes in the final seconds of the Chargers games, or against the Saints or his game against GB. I know Jake gets beat up all lot around here but you can't really say he had a bad year last year. You can say he had two bad games but two games do not make a year.

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Actually Jake wasn't too bad last year. He had the bad game against Tampa and Oakland throwing 7 INT in those two games. He only threw 12 INTs all year though which means he only threw 5 INT in the other 14 games. And how about those passes in the final seconds of the Chargers games, or against the Saints or his game against GB. I know Jake gets beat up all lot around here but you can't really say he had a bad year last year. You can say he had two bad games but two games do not make a year.

Finally some facts and actual information instead of the usual hysterical commentary. :hurray:

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He isn't the one overthrowing, underthrowing, lame-duck throwing, and in general making poor choices/throws. He might not be helping a whole lot, but I wouldn't put much (if any) of the blame on him for the inept passing offense.

Isn't that kind of like saying Fox doesn't deserve any of the criticism for the teams poor play. After all, he's not making them miss blocks or tackles.

Look, all I am saying is maybe he came in and started changing Jake's mechanics or something. We all know they weren't great to start with. But as bad as they were, he was still able to connect with Smith almost at will. Now, there's nothing. It can't be the surgery because he was fine last year. The only other major change, other than age, is the QB coach.

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