Thought we were getting a LT today?

[Toomers]

3 minutes ago, Ivan The Awesome said:

You should talk to your therapist. There's clearly mental issues with you bud. If you don't like what I post or agree. that's totally cool. There is no need to belittle or even offend people. Saca knows I appreciate the work he does andy comment wasn't even directed at you but yet you took it hard. Like a prom queen in prom  night. Just move on?  Maybe that will help your life a little more? 

 

I'm not even going to get into the Matt Kalil thing. As it stands,  hes regressed and I don't see a point with him being on the team.  People can change stances. Apparently you're too perfect to understand that. lol

  I wasn’t the only one who took it that way. I just explained my issue. And instead of just saying... yep, I was wrong.....you blame me for noticing your blatant hypocrisy. 

  If you posted nothing but that last paragraph, I would have been first to say, cool. I’ve ate crow many times. But you go full hypocrite, and blame “mental issues” of mine for noticing it. That’s adorable. Did you not get hugged enough as a child? Should I call you a hypocrite in a softer tone? Don’t blame me because you can’t keep your BS theories straight and forget people have memories. 

[Manther]

I predict Matt comes back and performs so well huddlers say, wow he really improved.  Norv has schemed around weakness at LT.  All he has to do is leave that scheme in place.   

[Khyber53]

He's quality back-up to the back-up material.

Seriously, though, there's no reason to give up anything for him except a warm seat on the bench. And that's simply because we're paying him either way.

[Toomers]

5 minutes ago, Manther said:

I predict Matt comes back and performs so well huddlers say, wow he really improved.  Norv has schemed around weakness at LT.  All he has to do is leave that scheme in place.   

Norv tried to scheme around Matt for two+ years. With poor results at best. 

  If he was coming back we would have already gotten the “Matt’s finally healthy” article version 8.0. 

 

[Manther]

7 minutes ago, Toomers said:

Norv tried to scheme around Matt for two+ years. With poor results at best. 

  If he was coming back we would have already gotten the “Matt’s finally healthy” article version 8.0. 

 

I don't know what happened in MN, but Cam is stepping up consistently into the pocket now, making it  way easier for the tackles.  He did not do this last year.  Matt should perform better in this offense.  With an easier load, I would expect fewer mental mistakes.   Matt will play as good or better than Clark. 

[Toomers]

2 minutes ago, Manther said:

I don't know what happened in MN, but Cam is stepping up consistently into the pocket now, making it  way easier for the tackles.  He did not do this last year.  Matt should perform better in this offense.  With an easier load, I would expect fewer mental mistakes.   Matt will play as good or better than Clark. 

First, what indication do you have that he's even coming back? He could have been practicing for weeks. 9 weeks for “Knee Soreness?” When your team is desperate at OT and Williams is getting injured while playing hurt. I truly believe no one wants him back. And why risk 7M for similar play? 

 And Cam avoided just as many sacks from Kalil as Clark. If not more. There’s no offensesive scheme that prevents those Cam Jordan shots. He couldn’t step up so he spun out. 

[Manther]

5 hours ago, Toomers said:

First, what indication do you have that he's even coming back? He could have been practicing for weeks. 9 weeks for “Knee Soreness?” When your team is desperate at OT and Williams is getting injured while playing hurt. I truly believe no one wants him back. And why risk 7M for similar play? 

 And Cam avoided just as many sacks from Kalil as Clark. If not more. There’s no offensesive scheme that prevents those Cam Jordan shots. He couldn’t step up so he spun out. 

We're out the money this year whether he plays or not. 

I believe he'll be coming back, at least into some rotation, because he's a better athlete and has a higher ceiling than Clark.  Now next year is another discussion, it would be a bunch of dead money, but it may be worth it to let him go. 

For years Cam's go to move was to spin out.  Now he's stepping up.

I'm not going to waste a bunch of posts on Matt Kalil, I think he took advantage of us and should renegotiate a more favorable contract because his play SUCKED.  That said, he's better than Clark in the same scheme.  

[Peppers90 NC]

21 hours ago, Toomers said:

I hope they don’t call him at all..lol

Some people call him a speed bump, but that implies he actually slows someone down.

[MechaZain]

It's a short week and it was gonna take awhile for him to get back up to speed regardless. 

[Mr. Scot]

If they do plan to insert Kalil back into the starting lineup again, I'd rather it be on the right. Let Moton take over the left.

My guess is Kalil will stay benched, but with Ron ya never know.

[Toomers]

53 minutes ago, Manther said:

We're out the money this year whether he plays or not. 

I believe he'll be coming back, at least into some rotation, because he's a better athlete and has a higher ceiling than Clark.  Now next year is another discussion, it would be a bunch of dead money, but it may be worth it to let him go. 

For years Cam's go to move was to spin out.  Now he's stepping up.

I'm not going to waste a bunch of posts on Matt Kalil, I think he took advantage of us and should renegotiate a more favorable contract because his play SUCKED.  That said, he's better than Clark in the same scheme.  

What does being a better athlete or having more “upside” matter when discussing Kalil.and Clark. They are what they are. Are you hoping to magically unlock that upside that no one has in seven years? In the last few weeks? 

    He’s not coming back(barring injury). He’s gone the minute the season is over at 14.7M. We can’t renegotiate because he has all the money already. And if he plays and gets injured, we owe him 7M guaranteed for next year. How does that figure into your plans?

   Matt Kalil played in this scheme for 2 years and never at the level Clark has. Which isn’t much, but much better than anything Kalil has put on film. Because you said so isn’t a credible answer

[Manther]

50 minutes ago, Toomers said:

    He’s not coming back(barring injury). He’s gone the minute the season is over at 14.7M. We can’t renegotiate because he has all the money already. And if he plays and gets injured, we owe him 7M guaranteed for next year. How does that figure into your plans?

   Matt Kalil played in this scheme for 2 years and never at the level Clark has. Which isn’t much, but much better than anything Kalil has put on film. Because you said so isn’t a credible answer

I didn't know he wasn't coming back barring injury.  I missed that announcement.

I do see him gone at the end of the season because he's not worth the price.

I don't think he has the 3rd and 4th year money yet.

I did not know that Kalil gets 7 Mil if he is injured.  I was under the impression we weren't on the hook for 2019 money until 2019 season.

[Toomers]

10 minutes ago, Manther said:

I didn't know he wasn't coming back barring injury.  I missed that announcement.

I do see him gone at the end of the season because he's not worth the price.

I don't think he has the 3rd and 4th year money yet.

I did not know that Kalil gets 7 Mil if he is injured.  I was under the impression we weren't on the hook for 2019 money until 2019 season.

And he will never get his 3rd or 4th year money. He has the 25M guaranteed that we have already given him. We just have to account for 14.7M over next two years.  

   And if he gets hurt, we owe him more. So where is any logical reason to put him back on the field? 

  This is on page one. She doesn’t think he’s coming back either. He’s not even trying to practice. 

 

 All I could find was comment by Jourdan Roudrique when asked a couple days ago. 

 

“I think the question then isn’t whether we’ll see Kalil back on the field this year (which I doubt, aside from an emergency), but whether he will be a part of the Panthers’ big picture plans after the season”