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Relevant Remaining Schedules

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Remaining schedules for all the teams with a realistic shot at the playoffs...

#1 - LOS ANGELES RAMS (11-1)

@Chicago
vs Philadelphia
@Arizona
vs San Francisco

#2 - NEW ORLEANS SAINTS (10-2)

@Tampa Bay
@Carolina
vs Pittsburgh
vs Carolina

#3 - CHICAGO BEARS (8-4)

vs Los Angeles Rams
vs Green Bay
@ San Francisco
@ Minnesota

#4 - DALLAS COWBOYS (7-5)

vs Philadelphia
@ Indianapolis
vs Tampa Bay
@ New York Giants

#5 - SEATTLE SEAHAWKS (7-5)

vs Minnesota
@ San Francisco
vs Kansas City
vs Arizona

#6 - MINNESOTA VIKINGS (6-5-1)

@ Seattle    
vs Miami    
@ Detroit    
vs Chicago

#7 - CAROLINA PANTHERS (6-6)

@ Cleveland
vs New Orleans
vs Atlanta
@ New Orleans

8 - PHILADELPHIA EAGLES (6-6)

@ Dallas        
@ Los Angeles Rams       
vs Houston        
@ Washington         

9 - WASHINGTON REDSKINS (6-6)

vs New York Giants   
@ Jacksonville    
@ Tennessee        
vs Philadelphia    

10 - TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS (5-7)

vs New Orleans   
@ Baltimore    
@ Dallas    
vs Atlanta    

11 - GREEN BAY PACKERS (4-7-1)

vs Tennessee
vs Pittsburgh
@ Oakland
@ Kansas City

 

NOTES:

- The Saints can clinch the NFC South title this weekend if they beat the Buccaneers or we lose to the Browns.
- Winning out isn't the only path, but it's the best path.  Unfortunately, it's also the least realistic.
- The Panthers own head to head tiebreakers over the Cowboys and Eagles, but that only applies in the Wild Card race.
- The Redskins are the only NFC East team with a head to head win over us.  If they finish with equal records, the Redskins get in over us.
- If the Panthers lose one of the last four, the playoffs are possible but they'll need some help.  Two losses likely means elimination.

 

Do the math.

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Updates...

The Saints clinched the division title today. Our only path to the playoffs is a Wild Card, and we're currently on the outside looking in.

The Seahawks and Vikings are the two teams ahead of us in the Wild Card race. They play each other tomorrow. In prior scenarios that might have helped us, but now no matter who wins tomorrow both teams will still have a better record than we do.

FYI: If anyone is still clinging to the whole "Saints resting starters in Week 17" scenario, you probably shouldn't be.

Here's why:

Yes, the Rams loss to the Bears evened their respective records and the Saints hold the head to head tiebreaker, but the Saints still need to finish with an equal or better record than the Rams for that tiebreaker to matter.

The Saints play us twice and the Steelers once. A loss to the Steelers seems a lot less likely now than it did back when they played us, but if it did happen it would put the Saints behind the Rams for home field advantage throughout and make their finale against us a must win.

The Rams? They finish their schedule against three losing teams (the Eagles, Cardinals and 49ers). Losing to the Bears tonight makes those games even more important, but regardless, they have an easier path to home field than the Saints do.

The final nail though? You can thank the schedule makers for that.

Our week 17 contest in New Orleans starts at 1pm. The Rams don't play until 4:25. If the teams were even and the Rams lost early, then the Saints might consider resting their starters. Since the Rams don't play until after our final game is already done, that can't happen.

I never put a lot of stock in that idea anyway, but it looks a lot less likely now.

Bottom line: We're really only hanging on by a thread right now, but if we lose another game we're likely toast, and our final three contests are all against division rivals who have owned us for the last year or so.

Getting into the playoffs now might take a Christmas miracle.

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Playoff talk is absoutely nonsensical at this point. We're on a 5 game losing streak and we've lost to the worst teams on our schedule. I don't see us beating one of the best teams in the league in either matchup. A win against the Falcons at home is entirely possible, if incredibly meaningless besides lowering our draft position. Even though the Falcons seem to be in one hell of a tailspin if their own this year, they've been owning us pretty consistently since they handed us our only regular season loss in 2015 season. 

For all intents and purposes, the next 3 games look like Ls and the team has shown nothing over the past five games to give us any reasonable hope of the contrary. 

If nothing else, it should be an eventful off-season with a lot of major changes to both player personnel and staff as well. 

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1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

We've reached the point in the season that the relevant schedules involve the other teams playing for draft picks. We may have a shot at getting one of the elite pass rushers in this draft now.

I realize how homeriffic this probably sounds, but technically we are still alive for the playoffs.

That may very well change next week, but hey...

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1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

We've reached the point in the season that the relevant schedules involve the other teams playing for draft picks. We may have a shot at getting one of the elite pass rushers in this draft now.

thats a little dubious, because even though this is a good draft for pass rushers. We picked a bad year to have a mediocre record. Because right now it appears that almost half of the league is still in better draft position than we are. According to NFL.com here are the teams still ahead of us draft wise : 

  1. 49ers
  2. Raiders
  3. Cardinals
  4. Jets
  5. Jags
  6. Bills
  7. Falcons
  8. Bucs
  9. Giants
  10. Lions
  11. Bengals
  12. Packers
  13. Browns

Also consider the Redskins, Eagles, and Broncos are all 6-7 (along with the Panthers). And several middle of the pack teams like 1 game behind us.

So us winning even 1 more game could drop us to near pick 20 , and if we get relatively lucky we might get around pick 11-15 if the right teams win games and we lose out. 

In general though, this year involves a massive log jam of mediocre teams with middling records. 

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3 minutes ago, Hoenheim said:

thats a little dubious, because even though this is a good draft for pass rushers. We picked a bad year to have a mediocre record. Because right now it appears that almost half of the league is still in better draft position than we are. According to NFL.com here are the teams still ahead of us draft wise : 

  1. 49ers
  2. Raiders
  3. Cardinals
  4. Jets
  5. Jags
  6. Bills
  7. Falcons
  8. Bucs
  9. Giants
  10. Lions
  11. Bengals
  12. Packers
  13. Browns

Also consider the Redskins, Eagles, and Broncos are all 6-7 (along with the Panthers). And several middle of the pack teams like 1 game behind us.

So us winning even 1 more game could drop us to near pick 20 , and if we get relatively lucky we might get around pick 11-15 if the right teams win games and we lose out. 

In general though, this year involves a massive log jam of mediocre teams with middling records. 

I'm hopeful. The two Saints games are practically guaranteed losses and even though the Falcons suck, they've had our number since week 15 of '15. We have a very real shot at losing out with 7-9 as our ceiling. Some of these middling teams are going to have to win some games.

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