5-13 in the NFC South from 2016-18

[Carl Spackler]

1-5 in 2016

3-3 in 2017

1-5 in 2018

For all the things said about the game passing Ron by, nothing touches the fact that we’re the bitch of our division and are generally a free win. It’s really hard to succeed when you lose more than two-thirds of your division games. 

[Jon Snow]

Ron has too much red in his ledger.  

[Seoul_Panther]

Wait. How are we 1-5 in 2018 with 3 division games to play? It’s obviously an ongoing problem though.

[RumHam]

Payton has been to the playoffs 3 of last 6 years, same as us. He's overrated.

[Carl Spackler]

6 minutes ago, Seoul_Panther said:

Wait. How are we 1-5 in 2018 with 3 division games to play? It’s obviously an ongoing problem though.

You must be new. 

[gmonjimbo]

We are struggling in our division because the team isn't built to defend the pass. We have two box safeties playing center field. We have LBs covering Wrs. Horrible nickel corner play. Then no pressure from the inside or edge.

I think the offense can improve next year with young pieces like Ian, CMC, Moore,  Samuel getting more experience and hopefully any lingering problems with Cam's shoulder is resolved.

However, the defense will continue to get worst if we dont start taking some of these vets behind the woodshed and putting them down. I truly believe if we had an average defense we would be 8-5 or even 9-4 right now. 

[Carl Spackler]

Just now, gmonjimbo said:

We are struggling in our division because the team isn't built to defend the pass. We have two box safeties playing center field. We have LBs covering Wrs. Horrible nickel corner play. Then no pressure from the inside or edge.

I think the offense can improve next year with young pieces like Ian, CMC, Moore,  Samuel getting more experience and hopefully any lingering problems with Cam's shoulder is resolved.

However, the defense will continue to get worst if we dont start taking some of these vets behind the woodshed and putting them down. I truly believe if we had an average defense we would be 8-5 or even 9-4 right now. 

And instead we have the worst defense in the league. 

[gmonjimbo]

13 minutes ago, Seoul_Panther said:

Wait. How are we 1-5 in 2018 with 3 division games to play? It’s obviously an ongoing problem though.

He is penciling the remaining three games as losses and I dont blame him. The Saints probably have to win out to secure Homefield and the Falcons might have lost 5 straight, but they are still a horrible matchup for this defense. 

[Carl Spackler]

1 minute ago, gmonjimbo said:

He is penciling the remaining three games as losses and I dont blame him. The Saints probably have to win out to secure Homefield and the Falcons might have lost 5 straight, but they are still a horrible matchup for this defense. 

There’s not a team we can beat other than ourselves. The Raiders and 49ers are a horrible matchup for this defense. 

[gmonjimbo]

3 minutes ago, Carl Spackler said:

And instead we have the worst defense in the league. 

Yes have to face reality. There were signs last year the defense was breaking down. I believe the defense or at least pass defense was ranked dead last second half of the season. 

[Carl Spackler]

Just now, gmonjimbo said:

Yes have to face reality. There were signs last year the defense was breaking down. I believe the defense or at least pass defense was ranked dead last second half of the season. 

Good thing Ron took over and fixed things. If he isn’t fired, hooo boyy we are in for a 3-13 debacle next year.  

[Seoul_Panther]

5 minutes ago, gmonjimbo said:

He is penciling the remaining three games as losses and I dont blame him. The Saints probably have to win out to secure Homefield and the Falcons might have lost 5 straight, but they are still a horrible matchup for this defense. 

I understand what he’s doing and the logic behind it. Doesn’t change the fact that we haven’t lost the games yet. I swear some people seem to revel in our struggles.

[thefuzz]

Time for us to forget about 2015, that was a million years ago in the NFL.  We laugh at Dallas all the time bragging about their super bowls.

As soon as Ron had job security (read after 2015) he went right back to who he always has been.  An average HC with some amazing pieces around him to keep him afloat.

 

[Seoul_Panther]

56 minutes ago, gmonjimbo said:

We are struggling in our division because the team isn't built to defend the pass. We have two box safeties playing center field. We have LBs covering Wrs. Horrible nickel corner play. Then no pressure from the inside or edge.

Completely agree with this. Even more annoying is that we have more cap money in the D than the O. It follows that drafting S or DE and making some of these guys accountable for their performance is a good move.