Tepper won't speak

[Moo Daeng]

10 hours ago, Camp Fodder said:

I am pretty sure that Gettleman always had a presser at the end of the season and I think JR had one too.  It’s not a lot to ask that the powers to be would at least hold a presser to tell the fans what’s going on and how we are going to move forward after this epic collapse that we just sat thru the last 2 months

The pressers happen around the 13 or 14th of the month looking at history.  Being the 1st you are about two weeks shy of that.

 

 

[GeorgeHanson]

4 hours ago, raz said:

mr george i sure hope you're right.

Patience my friend, you will be rewarded!

 

[Mr. Scot]

36 minutes ago, GeorgeHanson said:

I'm interested to read your sources for where Jerry Richardson was on record for what he "wanted"?  As for his son, he and Jerry are estranged so suggesting Mark's friendship with Navarro is somehow an implicit endorsement by Jerry is a gigantic stretch.

Any on the record sources for all these assertions?

Albert Breer had a lot of info on the team sale from behind the scenes.  The reports of Richardson's attitude and dissatisfaction with the process came from Darin Gantt.

[Squirrel]

42 minutes ago, Moo Daeng said:

The pressers happen around the 13 or 14th of the month looking at history.  You are about two weeks shy of that.

Simmer down

 

That because we was usually in the playoffs.   He will talk holiday today so expect something to happen tomorrow and pressers to follow.  

[Moo Daeng]

1 minute ago, Squirrel said:

That because we was usually in the playoffs.   He will talk holiday today so expect something to happen tomorrow and pressers to follow.  

Good point. 

 

[trueblade]

14 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

I've seen several people make the argument that since he's mega rich, he must know what he's doing.

Dan Snyder, Jerry Jones and Jim Haslam are all mega rich too.

For that matter, so was Jerry Richardson.

It's not simply the fact David Tepper is wealthy. It's how he made his money that makes me think the guy is pretty smart.

That said, he's still a rookie owner and much like how someone cautioned Washington might have some rookie struggles, keeping Ron and Marty looks like a rookie mistake on Tepper's part. 

[PghPanther]

The Browns, Falcons and the Lions will have SB rings before the Panthers do....if the Panthers ever sniff another SB appearance over the next 30 years......

 

[Jangler]

12 minutes ago, PghPanther said:

The Browns, Falcons and the Lions will have SB rings before the Panthers do....if the Panthers ever sniff another SB appearance over the next 30 years......

 

that just a bowl of grape nuts

[Thanatos]

On 12/31/2018 at 2:28 PM, Panthers2019 said:

yup nothing Rivera could do once Cam reinjured his shoulder our season was over when that happened and no other coach would had done any better in that spot.

How about not forcing an injured QB to play and instead playing your backup QB? What the fug was Ron's plan? To squeak into the playoffs where we would have no chance if Cam can't throw more than 20 yards? Hope it spontaneously heals itself? Oh that's right, he had no fuging clue and no fuging plan. Ron forcing- or allowing- your star franchise QB to play through a damn shoulder injury just proves he has no clue what he's doing.

And the way Allen looked yesterday-albeit against Saints players who knew they didnt have to win- you have a better shot at winning with the backups than with Cam.

[NanuqoftheNorth]

On 12/31/2018 at 11:28 AM, Panthers2019 said:

yup nothing Rivera could do once Cam reinjured his shoulder our season was over when that happened and no other coach would had done any better in that spot.

Incorrect.  Look no further than the reining champions to falsify this claim.

[GeorgeHanson]

On 1/1/2019 at 10:44 AM, Mr. Scot said:

I've seen several people make the argument that since he's mega rich, he must know what he's doing.

Dan Snyder, Jerry Jones and Jim Haslam are all mega rich too.

For that matter, so was Jerry Richardson.

By most folks standards all 4 guys you mention are in fact mega-rich.  That said, none are even close to being in the same league with Tepper.

Jones made some decent coin prior to buying the Cowboys but the vast majority of his net-worth ($5-6bn) is tied up in the team (worth ~$5bn), he's team-rich and cash poor on a relative basis.  Jerry got kinda lucky when he paid only $140 million for the Cowboys.

Snyder is reported to be worth $2.2 and to his credit (same as Jones), he made it on his own.  That said, not a ton of cash laying around and at best his net-worth is 20% of what Tepper's is.

Haslam inherited his coin ($3.7bn) and apparently isn't overly bright, totally outclassed by Tepper in every respect. Haslam only worth 1/3rd of what Tepper is.  No credit given here.

Richardson has the least money of all of them, probably not even $1bn after the tax man is done with him.  However, he too gets credit for making it on his own (vs. say Haslam).

For perspective, Tepper's personal net-worth is just about the same as all 4 of the others you mention -- COMBINED.  100% of his funds are self-made and the vast majority of the coin is very liquid, the man has a TON of cash. 

This thing is a marathon and we aren't even to the 1-mile market yet, patience people!

[GeorgeHanson]

Further perspective, Tepper could write a $3bn check for the LA Dodgers and another $3.6bn check for the NY Knicks and still have almost $2.7bn in cash left over.  That's a ton of dough and Tepper had this thing locked up (Panthers purchase) before the first Observer article that ever mentioned his name.

[Mr. Scot]

26 minutes ago, GeorgeHanson said:

Further perspective, Tepper could write a $3bn check for the LA Dodgers and another $3.6bn check for the NY Knicks and still have almost $2.7bn in cash left over.  That's a ton of dough and Tepper had this thing locked up (Panthers purchase) before the first Observer article that ever mentioned his name.

I get that Tepper is richer. He could be the richest man alive. I wouldn't care.

Let's say I have the world's best computer programmer. He's a guy who knows every language imaginable. He'd have to be incredibly smart to master all those things, for certain.

So I put him in charge of running an auto body repair shop.

He has no actual experience running an auto body repair shop, but hey he's smart so he'll figure it out, right?

Does he have any leadership skills? Management skills? Is he good with people? His being a master programmer doesn't really answer any of those questions, does it?

So will he succeed? Maybe he will. Maybe he won't.

Being smart, even mega-smart, at one thing doesn't necessarily mean you're going to be good at everything. There are different skill sets involved. It's the same as assuming that a guy who's a good coordinator will also be an excellent head coach or GM. Again, not a given.

We're not guaranteed that Tepper will be a good owner. We hope he will, but it's not guaranteed.

Yes, he has experience as a Steelers minority owner.

So did Jim Haslam.

[GeorgeHanson]

2 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I get that Tepper is richer. He could be the richest man alive. I wouldn't care.

Let's say I have the world's best computer programmer. He's a guy who knows every language imaginable. He'd have to be incredibly smart to master all those things, for certain.

So I put him in charge of running an auto body repair shop.

He has no actual experience running an auto body repair shop, but hey he's smart so he'll figure it out, right?

Maybe he will. Maybe he won't.

Being smart, even mega-smart, at one thing doesn't necessarily mean you're going to be good at everything. There are different skill sets involved. It's the same as assuming that a guy who's a good coordinator will also be an excellent head coach or GM. Again, not a given.

We're not guaranteed that Tepper will be a good owner. We hope he will, but it's not guaranteed.

Yes, he has experience as a Steelers minority owner.

So did Jim Haslam.

Minority owners are just along for the ride, they control nothing.  Just as neither Johnny Harris nor Smokey Bissell ever had anything to do with day-to-day operations of the Panthers, Tepper and Haslam had zero to do with the operations of the Steelers -- passive investors, nothing more.

Out of curiosity, what do you consider David Tepper's core-competency to be?  In your eyes what is he an expert at?