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NFL Combine Thread


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6 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I know everyone wants to compare Ed Oliver to Aaron Donald but I just don't see it other than both being  undersized athletic DTs. Donald had 29.5 sacks whole playing in P5 conferences (Big East and ACC) Oliver had 13 playing in the American Conference.

Donald was a freak in terms of strength, which Oliver is not. Oliver is more athletic, though. I think you will see Oliver get some mixed reviews depending on the team evaluating him.

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2 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Donald was a freak in terms of strength, which Oliver is not. Oliver is more athletic, though. I think you will see Oliver get some mixed reviews depending on the team evaluating him.

Oh, I'm sure. I think virtually every team will have some interest in him but exactly where they value him might vary quite a bit. He's going to have to convince teams he loves football too after sitting out the last part of the season. I'm surprised there hasn't been more talk about that with Bosa too.

 

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2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Oh, I'm sure. I think virtually every team will have some interest in him but exactly where they value him might vary quite a bit. He's going to have to convince teams he loves football too after sitting out the last part of the season. I'm surprised there hasn't been more talk about that with Bosa too.

 

I don't think it will be a concern with either guy. The NFL would much rather you sit and protect your NFL future than gamble with early returns from injuries and jeopardize your NFL future. Very smart business decision on the part of both. 

I would have no qualms at all about selecting them based on missing some completely pointless college games.

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3 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Kyler Murray won't throw at the Combine. What a bitch. Cam looked like poo throwing at the Combine but he manned up and did it. And he went #1.

I dont think anyone has any questions about his arm

If he didnt come and measure

Or run the 40 which they think he can put on a show for a QB.  Thats a redflag

 

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5 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Kyler Murray won't throw at the Combine. What a bitch. Cam looked like poo throwing at the Combine but he manned up and did it. And he went #1.

I don't think that is a "bitch" move. It's more of a business decision. You get a few of the upper first round guys that decide not to do some drills or even participate outside of measurements every year. If he wants to do his throwing drills in a more controlled environment, why not? That means his camp is fairly confident that won't hurt his stock.

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7 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I don't think that is a "bitch" move. It's more of a business decision. You get a few of the upper first round guys that decide not to do some drills or even participate outside of measurements every year. If he wants to do his throwing drills in a more controlled environment, why not? That means his camp is fairly confident that won't hurt his stock.

I just see it as a bitch move. I respect the guys that man up and throw. It rarely hurts anyone's stock. Everyone knows they're throwing to unfamiliar WRs.

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