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Swedish Butt-Whistle

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33 minutes ago, ImaginaryKev said:

Also, Shaq (like Thomas Davis) apparently has figured it after a relatively slow start to his career bc he looked like the perfect modern day LB he was drafted to be yesterday. I remember lots of folks were down on TD and considered him average til we changed our Defense and started using him like Derrick Brooks a couple years into his career. 

Sometimes you need a contract year to get a few first round talents to play up to their potential. That's life. 

yeah that but it's his first opportunity without TD in his way too. 

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4 minutes ago, ImaginaryKev said:

I mean this is fair. We know they value certain things and grade a certain way. They even explain it in videos

They made up their own grading system which has tons more assumptions that baseball. Baseball has hardcore numbers and all the crappy assumptions come after in the debate. Putting a numerical grade to football is a gross oversimplification. Yes, there is useful information for fantasy, or so I am told, but fantasy isn't real football. It's a side game.

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32 minutes ago, L-TownCat said:

I said it in the game thread but that TD where he ran over 2 guys, pounded his fist in the ground 2 times while stretching for the goal line and not letting his knees touch was some wizardry I still cant fully grasp.  

Maybe I can help. He put his fist into the turf to balance his weight while using the other hand to stretch the football over the goalline. 

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2 minutes ago, Waldo said:

They made up their own grading system which has tons more assumptions that baseball. Baseball has hardcore numbers and all the crappy assumptions come after in the debate. Putting a numerical grade to football is a gross oversimplification. Yes, there is useful information for fantasy, or so I am told, but fantasy isn't real football. It's a side game.

I mean okay

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2 minutes ago, Waldo said:

They made up their own grading system which has tons more assumptions that baseball. Baseball has hardcore numbers and all the crappy assumptions come after in the debate. Putting a numerical grade to football is a gross oversimplification. Yes, there is useful information for fantasy, or so I am told, but fantasy isn't real football. It's a side game.

yep.  There grading is largely junk.  They don't know the play calls or assignments either.  Like when CMC got trucked by that DE who got a free release at Cam.  PFF will just grade that as a negative on CMC.  CMC was in fact just dealing w/ a fug up.    People that fug up don't always get the ding. 

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Just now, CRA said:

yep.  There grading is largely junk.  They don't know the play calls or assignments either.  Like when CMC got trucked by that DE who got a free release at Cam.  PFF will just grade that as a negative on CMC.  CMC was in fact just dealing w/ a fug up.    People that fug up don't always get the ding. 

So what i was said is true that you should take their grading into consideration to affirm some things you see on the field but also avoid using it as the gospel on factors that aren't totally quantifiable? Nice

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22 minutes ago, ImaginaryKev said:

Lol yeah DJ Moore got some stuff to work on but he's like...bro, you're dumb if you give up on that guy after a fumble

Ya I didn’t get the insta hate on him. He didn’t protect the ball. Hurt his confidence early, but settled down after the half quite nicely. 

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4 minutes ago, Harbingers said:

Ya I didn’t get the insta hate on him. He didn’t protect the ball. Hurt his confidence early, but settled down after the half quite nicely. 

Moore actually did secure and protect the ball.  It was a legit perfect Peanut Punch.  

I can handle Moore losing it in that fashion to be honest.  I mean we actually want Moore to do exactly what he did on that play.   Just not for the punch to work out like that. 

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3 minutes ago, CRA said:

Moore actually did secure and protect the ball.  It was a legit perfect Peanut Punch.  

I can handle Moore losing it in that fashion to be honest.  I mean we actually want Moore to do exactly what he did on that play.   Just not for the punch to work out like that. 

Ya he secured it and was going for extra yardage. My point is going into that scrum he didn’t get his upper body and head low enough not to leave that huge hole for the peanut punch. But you can damn sure well expect him to be working anti-punch drills for the next few weeks. 

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