The roughing call...

[1of10Charnatives]

5 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Rules that require a player to basically defy gravity in order to keep from getting penalized are kind of ridiculous.

You're far more diplomatic on this than I am. You say kind of ridiculous, I say patently absurd. How exactly is a 300 pound lineman who has to beat another 300 lb talented athlete in order to get to the qb in a timeframe his training tells him needs to be under 3 seconds supposed to have such miraculous control over where his weight comes down every single time?

It's just not a realistic expectation given a pass rushers job, and the existing standard leaves it way too much of a judgement call on the part of any given official. Does anyone honestly think Boger has made that call every time a pass rusher landed on top of a qb?

 

[Jus Rob]

27 minutes ago, hepcat said:

Boger called a phantom offsides at the end of the game to try and make up for it 

This is true 

[1of10Charnatives]

2 minutes ago, Nesbro1 said:

There's a difference between hurting someone and ending their career. 

If you are a defender your mindset is supposed to be to hurt guys.

Driving a QB in the ground is no different than driving a RB in the ground.

I miss the 70s when teams really had to rely on a backup because the goal was to knock the QB out of the game.

This all started because Rodgers got a broken clavicle. Hardly a life threatening or career threatening injury. 

You know believe it or not offensive players can protect themselves. They have the choice to give up by taking a knee or throwing it away earlier. 

They shouldn't be rewarded with extra protection for extending a play to the last millisecond. That's having your cake and eating it too. It's bullchit.

Only the most egregious cheap shots should be vilified. 

Those days are never coming back brother. Modern training, nutrition and conditioning methods mean that today's players are bigger, stronger and faster than the guys in the 70's. If the standard were left the way it was in the 70's, half your starters would be out injured every week by midseason because these guys just put so much force behind each hit. I want to be entertained, I don't want everyone doing it to be a cripple by the time they're 50 as the price of playing.

[Seltzer]

33 minutes ago, hepcat said:

Boger called a phantom offsides at the end of the game to try and make up for it 

You're giving Boger way too much credit.  It's unreal that in a billion-dollar enterprise like the NFL that there aren't:

1) Full-time referees

2) Legitimate accountability (i.e. getting demoted and/or fired) for accruing enough bad calls

[Peon Awesome]

15 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

We didn't get called for grounding on a play where we probably should have as well.

Stuff like that is why I don't take the "it was rigged" conversation seriously. It's not rigged. Some referees are just terrible.

Boger is most definitely one of them.

As far as the play you're taking about, Allen threw it as he was getting hit which interfered with his ability to get any distance on the throw. Looked like he was throwing it in the direction of Wright but it fell 10 yards short because he was getting pummeled as he released it. At least that's how I would justify the no call. Maybe just the homer in me.

[1of10Charnatives]

7 minutes ago, Seltzer said:

You're giving Boger way too much credit.  It's unreal that in a billion-dollar enterprise like the NFL that there aren't:

1) Full-time referees

2) Legitimate accountability (i.e. getting demoted and/or fired) for accruing enough bad calls

So very much this. The crazy part is I don't understand why the league didn't make full time employment for refs a dealbreaker in negotiation. Tells me they are willing to put up with regular bad officiating as long as a strike doesn't leave them with the embarrasments of a few years ago, which I think is a shortsighted business decision but whatever. Fug the refs for insisting on being able to have other employment in the offseason, you're already making more than most people do for a part time job. If NFL officials were amazing I wouldn't say jack, but at least half of them are consistently not cutting it, so I have zero sympathy for them. Commit to your profession you jackasses.

[Mr. Scot]

18 minutes ago, 1of10Charnatives said:

You're far more diplomatic on this than I am. You say kind of ridiculous, I say patently absurd. How exactly is a 300 pound lineman who has to beat another 300 lb talented athlete in order to get to the qb in a timeframe his training tells him needs to be under 3 seconds supposed to have such miraculous control over where his weight comes down every single time?

It's just not a realistic expectation given a pass rushers job, and the existing standard leaves it way too much of a judgement call on the part of any given official. Does anyone honestly think Boger has made that call every time a pass rusher landed on top of a qb?

 

Oh, I've seen something like that done.

I'm pretty sure it was either in an anime' or an Avengers movie though.

(or maybe one of those old Chinese kung fu movies with poor dubbing and over-the-top sound effects)

[1of10Charnatives]

3 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Oh, I've seen something like that done.

I'm pretty sure it was either in an anime' or an Avengers movie though.

Good rule of thumb:

If players need the Infinity Gauntlet to consistently abide by your rules, your rules are absurd.

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, 1of10Charnatives said:

Good rule of thumb:

If players need the Infinity Gauntlet to consistently abide by your rules, your rules are absurd.

I mean hey, Jet Li can do it, right? If an actor can do it, then highly trained athletes ought to be able to, shouldn't they?

Maybe their problem is they should be using Crane Kung Fu instead of the Tiger Style.

[Snake]

That call and the no call grounding he did on the same play was big. 

[1of10Charnatives]

1 minute ago, Snake said:

That call and the no call grounding he did on the same play was big. 

big might be an understatement.

[Jus Rob]

Also when the GB hit our returner it the helmet 

[Mr. Scot]

NFL Network reporter...

 

[Rags]

1 hour ago, 1of10Charnatives said:

 I'm not sure what it is the officials want defensive players to do in order to tackle or sack a qb properly. 

Oh it's simple.

If their name is Rodgers, Brady, Wilson, or Brees, don't hit them too hard

I'm sure Mahomes and Watson will be old enough (read as valuable enough) to be added to list soon enough.