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Any votes for continuity?


Mr. Scot

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Saw this mentioned several times in the thread asking how long you could handle losing so I thought I'd go ahead and pose the question.

Is there anybody left who would be okay going into next year with no changes to the coaching and front office? Basically, continuing with Ron Rivera and Marty Hurney still running the show together.

If yes, make your argument as to why.

If no, ditto.

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7 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Saw this mentioned several times in the thread asking how long you could handle losing so I thought I'd go ahead and pose the question.

Is there anybody left who would be okay going into next year with no changes to the coaching and front office? Basically, continuing with Ron Rivera and Marty Hurney still running the show together.

If yes, make your argument as to why.

If no, ditto.

Yes there is, his name is David Tepper.

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15 minutes ago, PootieNunu said:

Yes there is, his name is David Tepper.

If Tepper decides to move forward with both Hurndog & 'Boat (and I think he will) I'm going to trust him and support his decision.

Tepper is brilliant and we're still in the top of the 1st inning, we all need to give him time to get it done --- and he will get it done.

NOTE:  We really don't know what Hurndog & 'Boat would have been able to accomplish if The Big Cat had left them alone and let them do their jobs.  Both deserve the benefit of the doubt and that's exactly what Tepper is giving them.

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3 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Ouch.

To be fair though, we don't know that yet.

We dont know for sure but I feel like he is going to.

1. His comments on being bad to get good.

2. Drafting Grier without any intention of him seeing the field this season.

3 . Same song and dance from last offseason.

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2 minutes ago, SBiii said:

If Tepper decides to move forward with both Hurndog & 'Boat (nd I think he will) I'm going to trust him and support his decision.

Tepper is brilliant and we're still in the top of the 1st inning, we all need to give him time to get it done --- and he will get it done.

Get what done, turn our team into an amusement park? He has not done anything at all to improve the quality of football that is played on the field, but all the while talking about a new stadium.

I really feel in Tepper's eyes Money > Winning Games

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To anyone taking up this challenge, I do have one request.

Please at least try to come up with a more compelling argument than "well, we could do worse". I honestly can't think of a single less inspiring motivational speech than that.

Given the circumstances, if you can't come up with anything better I understand, but at least make the effort.

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Just now, OneBadCat said:

I’m actually okay with Hurney. He’s improved from his first time around and usually nails the first round. 
 

Ron just constantly has the same issues. Cam with a new HC would be worth seeing.

Hurney brings in familiar names but it has yet to translate into a winning season. He needs to go back to radio.

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15 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

No. Hurney is a sub-.500 GM over the course of 10+ NFL seasons. That's all the evidence needed to show he's a subpar GM.

Ron has only won 55% of his games and that's even with the benefit of a 15-1 season. He's exactly what Tepper claims to despise - mediocre.

The wording of that last sentence makes me sense some doubt on your part.

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19 minutes ago, PootieNunu said:

I really feel in Tepper's eyes Money > Winning Games

You’re talking about a guy who paid $43 mill for the house of an old boss (who passed him over for promotion), just to tear it down and build something 2x bigger on the same lot. All accounts say he did it to show his old boss who the real winner was.

He’s got 12 Billion. What He doesn’t have Is a ring. 

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