David Tepper

[Forty-Eight]

36 minutes ago, run-run-pass-punt said:

I don't mean to make it personal, but what exactly would you do?

There is a wet paper bag of an o-line. No QB would have much of a chance behind it as it stands, let alone an UDFA.

Which, of course, brings up the fact that our franchise QB has been hurt for the past few seasons.

There was an awkward transition from a 4-3 to a hybrid 3-4 that, along with injuries, gutted the run D.

I mean, sometimes, things just are the way they are, and you have to examine the total picture with a little detachment before making sweeping, impetuous changes that aren't going to ultimately make things better in the long term.

Screaming "Win now!" as loudly as you can and firing/cutting everyone isn't going result in anything positive. It would just be change for the sake of change, and could ultimately do more harm than good.

 

I would’ve fire Marty Hurney long ago before Ron Rivera. Hurney is a problem. Probably the problem. He never address the DT during his first stint. Now, he has yet to address the OL after telling everyone that protection on Cam was what he was going to do this past offseason 

[Forty-Eight]

5 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

To be fair, it's valid that knowing how to make money doesn't mean he knows football.

There's a great bit in Armageddon where Billy Bob Thornton calls Jason Isaacs character the smartest man on the planet. Then later on, when he's talking about drilling (which Isaacs has no experience with) Bruce Willis basically calls him a moron.

Intelligence doesn't automatically equal skill at everything.

With all that said, I'll grant that this thread is a little silly.

It’s silly but it’s true

[run-run-pass-punt]

17 minutes ago, Forty-Eight said:

I would’ve fire Marty Hurney long ago before Ron Rivera. Hurney is a problem. Probably the problem. He never address the DT during his first stint. Now, he has yet to address the OL after telling everyone that protection on Cam was what he was going to do this past offseason 

I understand that feeling. Although I do think Hurney has his merits.

But, in my view, when you're a new owner walking into an organization, you have to take a bit of time to get a feel for things, to take the pulse of the organization before making big moves.

It feels like Tepper has had his evaluation period and is ready to make moves.

I think patience is often the better approach, so I have no issue with Tepper's apparent inaction to this point. Inform then act.

[1of10Charnatives]

1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

That dude has no clue.

He can be amusing to mess with though. You can make up fake player names and talk about plays in the game that never happened and he'll act like he knows exactly who and what you're talkin about 

"Hey, remember when Carl Allen threw that interception to Linus Van Pelt?"

"Yes, I thought it was a terrible read."

Sounds like Linus Van Pelt would be a great security blanket for the rest of our secondary. Is he available, can we trade for him? Cause right now Carl Allen shows up about as often as The Great Pumpkin.

 

[Forty-Eight]

1 minute ago, run-run-pass-punt said:

I understand that feeling. Although I do think Hurney has his merits.

But, in my view, when you're a new owner walking into an organization, you have to take a bit of time to get a feel for things, to take the pulse of the organization before making big moves.

It feels like Tepper has had his evaluation period and is ready to make moves.

I think patience is often the better approach, so I have no issue with Tepper's apparent inaction to this point. Inform then act.

I agreed with his patient. Like I said, Hurney should’ve went before Ron. But it looks like he’ll be getting a new contract here pretty soon and he hasn’t done anything to justify staying here. 

[Forty-Eight]

1 hour ago, billionairemonk said:

giving football decision-making advice to a self-made billionaire

 

[run-run-pass-punt]

7 minutes ago, Forty-Eight said:

I agreed with his patient. Like I said, Hurney should’ve went before Ron. But it looks like he’ll be getting a new contract here pretty soon and he hasn’t done anything to justify staying here. 

Well, I don't know what Tepper is going to do. I imagine that significant changes are coming though.

[Mr. Scot]

9 minutes ago, 1of10Charnatives said:

Sounds like Linus Van Pelt would be a great security blanket for the rest of our secondary. Is he available, can we trade for him? Cause right now Carl Allen shows up about as often as The Great Pumpkin.

I would.

My understanding is that his sister plays special teams as well. She's a holder for field goals.

[1of10Charnatives]

3 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I would.

My understanding is that his sister plays special teams as well. She's a holder for field goals.

A girl in the NFL?

 

Good Grief!

[Mr. Scot]

4 minutes ago, 1of10Charnatives said:

A girl in the NFL?

 

Good Grief!

To be fair, she's pretty mean.

That said, my understanding is that the percentage of field goals made with her as the holder is not very high.

Apparently, she mishandles a lot of snaps.

[JARROD]

1 hour ago, Forty-Eight said:

Insanity: repeating the same exact bullshiat and expecting a different result

And the results are repeated over and over again throughout history, each generation believing the prior is old and stupid yet they make exactly the same steps.

 

[trueblade]

Tepper allegedly was one of the minority owners who wanted Tomlin gone. Tomlin's done a great job this year on essentially his 4th quarterback (they traded their 3rd string Dobbs earlier this season). With one more win this season, Tomlin will have never had a losing season.

If the rumors are true, that's enough to question Tepper's decision making process on the football side.

[mc52beast]

I don't know what's more laughable. The team's performance as of late, or all the posters here who know more than a self-made billionaire who was a part of one of the most successful franchises of the last few decades.

 

He had a vanity 5% share in the Steelers. He wasn’t making critical decisions there or deciding who should be hired/ fired. I know plenty of very smart people who don’t know jack about football.

[ncstatekwi]

11 hours ago, EgoDogg said:

I don't know what's more laughable. The team's performance as of late, or all the posters here who know more than a self-made billionaire who was a part of one of the most successful franchises of the last few decades.

Under two seasons as owner to replace the head coach -- I find that to be borderline aggressive. Everybody here is so black and white. Hurney does offer incredible value in some areas, or at least one, which is the 1st round of the draft. But there are other areas he's severely lacking. Instead of just replacing him, why not let him play to his strengths and bring in others to compliment him / fill-in his weak areas.

If you have the option to have a Jack of All Trades, but master of none, or 1 person to focus purely on the draft, 1 for contracts, 1 for free agency, you have the best in each area.

This is a different approach, so many here might not understand how it works. But from the sounds of it, if we keep Hurney, he'll only be doing what he excels at. He won't be the lead in cap management, free agency, and probably even coaching hires.

I agree!  Tepper is going to put folks on the football side of the house in the best positions to succeed!  He is going to put them in those positions that beat suit their strengths!