Breer: Panthers next coach to have "considerable say"

[Mr. Scot]

4 minutes ago, DubE_4MR said:

That would be an ideal situation because McDaniels would have a GM that would see eye to eye with him and share the same vision. Trying to bring in McDaniels under an existing regime seems to be a square peg/round hole case.

Ziegler was a college teammate of McDaniels and Caserio at John Carroll University.

McDaniels actually got him his start in the NFL, bringing him aboard the Broncos scouting staff in 2010.

So yeah, there's definitely a connection there.

[kungfoodude]

1 minute ago, WOW!! said:

He has a 700% winning percentage as a head coach in the Nfl..

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/HarbJi0.htm

He won his division 3x out of 4 years..

What does that say to you about winning??

Guess you didn't have to wait that long did you..

I mean......a 700% winning percentage would be impressive....and statistically impossible.....

[steven8989]

2 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I mean......a 700% winning percentage would be impressive....and statistically impossible.....

Sounds like a coach we had won 3 straight titles and couldn't win the big one. That would be a no for me, no more mediocre coaches please. 

[Moo Daeng]

5 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

He has a .700% winning percentage as a head coach in the Nfl..

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/HarbJi0.htm

He won his division 3x out of 4 years..

What does that say to you about winning??

Guess you didn't have to wait that long did you..

Lol...maybe you can get a job in the analysis department. Keep trying! Carry the zero

[Anybodyhome]

50 minutes ago, DubE_4MR said:

80% of the fanbase will hate whoever gets hired from a cheating Patriots organization.

FIFY.

[kungfoodude]

3 minutes ago, steven8989 said:

Sounds like a coach we had won 3 straight titles and couldn't win the big one. That would be a no for me, no more mediocre coaches please. 

I think we have established that you have a pretty loose grasp of the concept of mediocrity in previous discussions. Having the 5th best winning percentage among NFL head coaches all-time is really not even close to "mediocre."

[DubE_4MR]

4 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Ziegler was a college teammate of McDaniels and Caserio at John Carroll University.

McDaniels actually got him his start in the NFL, bringing him aboard the Broncos scouting staff in 2010.

So yeah, there's definitely a connection there.

And I think that's something we've lacked with Rivera/Hurney and Rivera/DG. They didn't seem to be on the same page as far as what personnel was needed to run the scheme. Some examples include letting guys like Norman and Star walk and not replacing those roles. Or the disaster of the transition to the hybrid defense and lacking the proper personnel to pull it off this year. 

[WOW!!]

9 minutes ago, steven8989 said:

Sounds like a coach we had won 3 straight titles and couldn't win the big one. That would be a no for me, no more mediocre coaches please. 

The coach we had had 3 winning seasons in 9 years.. Harbaugh never had a losing seasons  and top 5 alltime in winning% ....in all categories He's considered top teir not mediocre..  By your logic Andy Reid is mediocre.. He's never won the big one either.. See how dumb that sounds??

[Anybodyhome]

12 minutes ago, joeyxfresco said:

My short list in no order

Greg Roman

Josh McDaniels

David Shaw

 

Like your list without McDaniels and insert Stefanski.

[Mr. Scot]

56 minutes ago, DubE_4MR said:

Breer seems fixated on McDaniels. I wouldn't mind it but I've seen a lot of folks opposed to it. Regardless, 80% of the fanbase will hate whoever gets hired.

I just hope the coach that does get the opportunity has the chance to get the right pieces in place to put him in the best position to succeed. 

I'm not a big fan of the idea myself, but if it happens I'll hope for the best like I always do.

Tepper has confirmed he'll be patient with whomever he hires.

[WOW!!]

5 minutes ago, Moo Daeng said:

Lol...maybe you can get a job in the analysis department. Keep trying! Carry the zero

Really?? You jump on a period mistake grammar boy??

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/HarbJi0.htm

This pretty much said what I actually meant without you getting all jittery sweetheart..

[Mr. Scot]

5 minutes ago, DubE_4MR said:

And I think that's something we've lacked with Rivera/Hurney and Rivera/DG. They didn't seem to be on the same page as far as what personnel was needed to run the scheme. Some examples include letting guys like Norman and Star walk and not replacing those roles. Or the disaster of the transition to the hybrid defense and lacking the proper personnel to pull it off this year. 

To be fair, choosing the opposite of whatever Rivera wanted to do on the personnel side was generally a good idea.

Granted, not in every case.

[steven8989]

20 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I think we have established that you have a pretty loose grasp of the concept of mediocrity before. Having the 5th best winning percentage among NFL head coaches all-time is really not even close to "mediocre."

Damn I don't want another Andy Reid that can win all these damn games, division titles, and never the big one. Hey if u want that maybe you should pull for the chiefs. I want a championship winning coach!

[steven8989]

4 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

The coach we had had 3 winning seasons in 9 years.. Harbaugh never had a losing and in all categories is considered top teir not mediocre..  By your logic Andy Reid is mediocre.. He's never won the big one either.. See how dumb that sounds??

He is mediocre!