PSL Owners Losing Seats for Luxury Suites

[Pantherzack179812]

I just checked PSL source and other websites for comparable seats. They're are multiple seats with very similar values to what the Panthers are offering in cash. These seats aren't worth 7,000. People quit buying PSLs the second Tepper mentioned new stadium. This will be a mess for a bit, but there is no legal ground in court where someone can convince a judge those psls are worth more then 2,000-3,000. The Contract even says this is not an investment, don't treat it like one. Make settlement offers and argue with them, they would rather settle then go to court.

[Happy Panther]

22 minutes ago, 4Corners said:

Honestly, I gotta give Mr Tepper a tip of the hat. At least he reclaimed seats from people who can probably afford it.

Nothing to afford...

[Pantherzack179812]

The first 8 rows of the endzone are the worst seats in the house. You can't even barely see half the field and end up watching the game on TV. Cam Newton never gave grown men footballs, so only the kids in row 1 miss out, heck he might not even be her next year. It does kind of suck for one reason, this dang stadium was designed were 70% of the seats were in the upper deck (whose bright idea was that) that takes about 1,000 affordable lower deck seats away. I still think Panthers will end up going up on their offer.

[GRWatcher]

16 minutes ago, jfra78 said:

They have been perfecting 485 for over 20 years and 77 for 30

And they both still suck lol.

[Happy Panther]

2 minutes ago, Pantherzack179812 said:

The first 8 rows of the endzone are the worst seats in the house. You can't even barely see half the field and end up watching the game on TV. 

False...

[Bronn]

24 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

We should start a thread for nothing but cute puppy pictures just for the sake of seeing how someone will find a way to politicize it three posts in.

Or we could just ban people that offend people's sensitivities, and wipe their whole posting history.
 

But, I'm not telling you anything new.

[LinvilleGorge]

4 minutes ago, Pantherzack179812 said:

The first 8 rows of the endzone are the worst seats in the house. You can't even barely see half the field and end up watching the game on TV. Cam Newton never gave grown men footballs, so only the kids in row 1 miss out, heck he might not even be her next year. It does kind of suck for one reason, this dang stadium was designed were 70% of the seats were in the upper deck (whose bright idea was that) that takes about 1,000 affordable lower deck seats away. I still think Panthers will end up going up on their offer.

Go to your kitchen and grab a bowl. Now explain to me how you'd ever fit as many seats in the lower portion of the bowl as the upper portion.

[Pantherzack179812]

Just now, Happy Panther said:

False...

True. If you can see a fade completion in the endzone on the other side of the stadium from the first 3 rows of the endzone, you have some amazing eyes. I would take upper sideline over lower endzone 10/10 times. The Panthers are offering a return on investment after 26 years of use or a even better set of psls. There is no case here. It is in the agreement they can raise ticket prices, a judge doesn't care that you liked Sunday giveaways. 

[Pantherzack179812]

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Go to your kitchen and grab a bowl. Now explain to me how you'd ever fit as many seats in the lower portion of the bowl as the upper portion.

Don't expect to have more in the lower, but there is like 20,000 to 50,000 if I remember correctly. Usually the average is 30,000 to 40,000 or something. Plus, probably now around 35% of the lower bowl is now club seating... I don't know another NFL stadium like that... Half the sideline, a large majority of the corners and endzone are now club seating. Go to another NFL stadium and see if it looks like ours, there is like 10,000 non-club seats in the lowers now... 

 

[Happy Panther]

2 minutes ago, Pantherzack179812 said:

True. If you can see a fade completion in the endzone on the other side of the stadium from the first 3 rows of the endzone, you have some amazing eyes. I would take upper sideline over lower endzone 10/10 times. The Panthers are offering a return on investment after 26 years of use or a even better set of psls. There is no case here. It is in the agreement they can raise ticket prices, a judge doesn't care that you liked Sunday giveaways. 

Yes the other endzone is hard to see. That isn't half the field.

No idea what your last two sentences mean.

[Pantherzack179812]

1 minute ago, Happy Panther said:

Yes the other endzone is hard to see. That isn't half the field.

No idea what your last two sentences mean.

There is no case in this, people are complaining their PSLs are worth more then what the Panthers are offering, when I found comparable prices give or take 500 a piece on the PSLs. The Panthers are offering to UPGRADE their PSLs for free. It doesn't stand in court you liked Cam Newton giving you footballs, the team will face nothing for this. I would gladly take lowers on the 30 in exchange for endzone seats.  So not being able to see some of the most important parts of the game is not important? I can't see anything decently past the 40 from there tbh, it's too much of a straight shot. rows 6-8 I could halfway see something. I don't mind 200 level and 100 endzone in the upper rows. 

[sml1950]

Money, money,money money.....MONEY.  In the 21st century , stadiums have become financially obsolete before they are becoming physically obsolete.

[Ricky Spanish]

44 minutes ago, 4Corners said:

One thing Charlotte knows how to do perfectly is work on roads 

Damn stadium will take an additional 10 years to construct. 

[Pantherzack179812]

1 minute ago, sml1950 said:

Money, money,money money.....MONEY.  In the 21st century , stadiums have become financially obsolete before they are becoming physically obsolete.

I can't stand NFL club seats. Panthers charge fans $280 a game for silver club and make them pay to eat. Club should mean you get food.