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Mr. Scot

By Mr. Scot,
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1 hour ago, Tbe said:

Sure, but you only get the stadium. You don’t get the team or the land it sits on. Just a building that can only be used for one thing. 
 

Congrats, you now own the sports equivalent of Eastland mall.

The point, he would NEVER in a million years sell that stadium at that price....ever, but he wants the county to value it at that amount.  How much is a new stadium to build these days?

He is just flexing his muscle, and the county will cave eventually.

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1 minute ago, thefuzz said:

The point, he would NEVER in a million years sell that stadium at that price....ever, but he wants the county to value it at that amount.  How much is a new stadium to build these days?

He is just flexing his muscle, and the county will cave eventually.

Value doesn’t come from what someone would sell something for, it’s what someone else would buy it for. 
 

Would anyone buy a nfl stadium without owning the land or team? If so, would they pay $400 or $87 mil for it. 
 

Honestly, without the team or land the building (as is) is worthless. It would cost tens of millions to tear down or repurpose.

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5 minutes ago, Tbe said:

Value doesn’t come from what someone would sell something for, it’s what someone else would buy it for. 
 

Would anyone buy a nfl stadium without owning the land or team? If so, would they pay $400 or $87 mil for it. 
 

Honestly, without the team or land the building (as is) is worthless. It would cost tens of millions to tear down or repurpose.

The county values the property at what they think is a fair value, it can go up and down as the economy and real estate market change, but in no world is that stadium only worth 87M.  You have to look at more than what it would be worth to someone who doesn't own a football team, and value it as if someone who does on a football team uses it.

Do you think that Tepper would sell the stadium for 87M when he doesn't have another stadium ready for the team to occupy?

 

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1 hour ago, Nails said:

So the Chiefs, in a smaller, colder, older, more decrepit city (in a much smaller two state region), can draft Kareem Hunt and Tyreek Hill, and trade for Frank Clark, AND play in a stadium built in 1972, AND be the Super Bowl favorite, and NOT need a new stadium.

And the Panthers need a new stadium, despite having one 24 years younger than Arrowhead, despite force feeding the masses GARBAGE football after allowing their franchise DE to not only be stolen away, but spat on on his way out?

Wow.

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Hey a counter example!

Now do Atlanta, LA, Dallas...

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2 minutes ago, thefuzz said:

The county values the property at what they think is a fair value, it can go up and down as the economy and real estate market change, but in no world is that stadium only worth 87M.  You have to look at more than what it would be worth to someone who doesn't own a football team, and value it as if someone who does on a football team uses it.

Do you think that Tepper would sell the stadium for 87M when he doesn't have another stadium ready for the team to occupy?

 

What does having another stadium have to do with a tax assessment?  You think the assessors are supposed to take something like that into account?

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What does having another stadium have to do with a tax assessment?  You think the assessors are supposed to take something like that into account?

They are supposed to give it fair market value, no different than a hospital, or government agency building.

Replacement cost has to come into play there.

If the stadium were destroyed tomorrow, could Tepper build it back to it's current state at 87M?  No, not close.

He is trying to purposefully devalue the stadium to keep from paying his taxes.

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6 minutes ago, thefuzz said:

They are supposed to give it fair market value, no different than a hospital, or government agency building.

Replacement cost has to come into play there.

If the stadium were destroyed tomorrow, could Tepper build it back to it's current state at 87M?  No, not close.

He is trying to purposefully devalue the stadium to keep from paying his taxes.

No replacement cost is not a factor.

Of course he is avoiding taxes.

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8 minutes ago, Happy Panther said:

No replacement cost is not a factor.

Of course he is avoiding taxes.

The entire point is that it's worth a hell of a lot more to Tepper than 87M, there is no way in hell he would sell it for that, simply no way.

Pay your taxes Tep, you can afford it.

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20 minutes ago, Happy Panther said:

Hey a counter example!

Now do Atlanta, LA, Dallas...

Buffalo, New Orleans, Chicago, Green Bay, Jacksonville.

The LA Coliseum is literally a century old.  The old Texas Stadium WAS A DUMP.

THIS SUNDAY’S SUPER BOWL (where Tyreek Hill and Frank Clark will be front and center) is being played in a stadium a decade older than BOA (considered extremely state of the art at the time).

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16 minutes ago, thefuzz said:

The entire point is that it's worth a hell of a lot more to Tepper than 87M, there is no way in hell he would sell it for that, simply no way.

Pay your taxes Tep, you can afford it.

If you are talking resale value its worth scrap. If Tepper builds a new stadium elsewhere there is almost no use for BofA. 

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Just now, Happy Panther said:

If you are talking resale value its worth scrap. If Tepper builds a new stadium elsewhere there is almost no use for BofA. 

Happy....now, right now, before a stadium has been started, which would take 2 years.

He would need to play football at NCSU or Clemson (good luck) or some other nonsense....point is, at this moment, that stadium is worth a hell of a lot more than 87M to David Tepper.

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14 minutes ago, Nails said:

Buffalo, New Orleans, Chicago, Green Bay, Jacksonville.

The LA Coliseum is literally a century old.  The old Texas Stadium WAS A DUMP.

THIS SUNDAY’S SUPER BOWL (where Tyreek Hill and Frank Clark will be front and center) is being played in a stadium a decade older than BOA (considered extremely state of the art at the time).

LA is building a $2B stadium.

Buffalo definitely wants a new stadium. So does the Jacksonville owner. And they will get one. So will we.

 

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5 minutes ago, thefuzz said:

Happy....now, right now, before a stadium has been started, which would take 2 years.

He would need to play football at NCSU or Clemson (good luck) or some other nonsense....point is, at this moment, that stadium is worth a hell of a lot more than 87M to David Tepper.

That's not how tax assessments work. You are ping-ponging between resale value and esoteric worth. 

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