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MHS831

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1 minute ago, WOW!! said:

I just understand where ppl get that Rookie LT dominant day 1 in the league.. It's one of the hardest position to transition from college to pros.. And it takes more then 2 season to fully develop at this position..

He was put into a very difficult situation---weak RG, having to play from behind---no preseason---if he did not fail, I would have been shocked.

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1 minute ago, WOW!! said:

The transition of C / to Guard Especially left isn't a hard 1.. Kalil was smaller then all these guys and did it ..

Kalil was 285, I think, so that is a good point.  He was not good at G.  Let's see what happens.

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2 minutes ago, jb2288 said:

Thank you. The amount of people calling him a bust after one year riddled with injuries are just wanting to be right so they can gloat about they were correct and Hurney was wrong. We already know Hurney sucks, let’s pull for this kid. 
 

The concussions definitely are something to make you pause, but to label him a bust after one season is asinine. 

Yes---Little could use a year behind a seasoned veteran while developing his mechanics.  I think Daley will start camp at starting RG---I know the plays were cherry picked, but I liked Reed in the video.  I think it will come down to one of those 2.  I think we are in much better shape than people realize at LG.

 

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18 minutes ago, jb2288 said:

Thank you. The amount of people calling him a bust after one year riddled with injuries are just wanting to be right so they can gloat about they were correct and Hurney was wrong. We already know Hurney sucks, let’s pull for this kid. 
 

The concussions definitely are something to make you pause, but to label him a bust after one season is asinine. 

No it's not he is garbage.

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1 hour ago, WOW!! said:

My choices are the 4 guys who can play Guard or center in the draft pretty effectively.. I think right now 3 would be 3rd rounders and 1 is a 4th or 5th rounder..

1. Tyler Biadiazz

 

2. Lloyd Cushenberry

3. Cesar Ruiz

4. Keith Ismael 

 

Guys who can play guard for a year and move over to C if Pardis fails again..

If biadiazz is sitting there at our pick in the 3rd I think it's a no brained. I'm feeling Brown or Okudah in the first and whichever we didn't take in the first take in the 2nd (DT, CB). The way I see the depth I think our best path would be Brown, CB, Biazdazz, that would be a dream part one to the draft imo. 

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3 hours ago, steven8989 said:

No it's not he is garbage.

You really want him to bust, don't you?  You want to say, "I told you so!!!"  You are already doing it, and nothing has been proven yet.  

What part of "project" or "developing" did you not get?  Secondly, list below the tackles in the NFL that were rookie studs at LT.  Then list the starting LTs in the league that were not rookie studs. Hopefully, a light will appear and you will follow it.

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6 hours ago, MHS831 said:

Hi boys and girls.  If you see one of my threads, it usually means the board is getting pretty stale.  So let's discuss a position everyone loves to talk about--LEFT GUARD.  I think we already have the left guard on the roster, I just do not know who yet.  And here we go...

Chris Reed:  We picked him up off waivers--remember?  Well (and I know that some of you are experts in all that is football, but until you get a website and a rating system for OL, we will have to go with second best), PFF rated him at 70.3 (in only 102 snaps in 2019) with 1 sack allowed.   He is 6-5, 310, and 27.  Depth for sure, but could he win the LG job?  For an OL he is entering his prime.  I like Reed to be the starter.  Here is why:

 

Dennis Daley:  Listed as a T, we played him at G last year until injuries set in.  He was not good at LT, but not many fifth-round rookies are.  Still, he played 686 snaps (58.3 PFF grade--at LT), and gave up 7 sacks.  However, move him inside, and you could have a different story.

Greg Little:  The Panthers mentioned that he would get a look at G with Okung taking over at LT for 2020.  He is a finesse player, and I am not sure if he can pull well.  His PFF score was 52.7--in only 224 plays--lower than Daley at LT.  He surrendered 3 sacks during the time he played.  To me, this is the third option at LG going into camp.  He needs to learn for a while like Moton did.

 

yikes!

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22 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

I think it’s Daley who wins it and Little backs up Okung at LT. I think Little still have potential to be our LT of the future if he can stay healthy.

I predict Daley to G and Reed as the C by midseason.

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1 hour ago, MHS831 said:

I predict Daley to G and Reed as the C by midseason.

I predict Paradis to play well this year.  Much of what was wrong with him last year was complicated blocking schemes that most Centers dont have to deal with. 

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7 hours ago, MHS831 said:

I have looked for it and have not seen where Willis--the best OT prospect (in my opinion) since Thomas, could play LT.  If he can, sure---he is awesome in every phase of the game.

I said best since he can play both tackles slots.  If he couldn't fill LT slot then a move of Morton and Willis to opposite sides would not be earth shattering.  We will have to pay Morton next year or someone else will.   I would love to have Thomas but I am afraid he will be gone.  If not the grab him.  Willis or Thomas will be a great pick for the OLine and then you can get your center in the 3rd round.  Only one person would I want to see taken above a LT and that would be Okuda from Ohio State.  

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