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Panther defense most conservative in the league.

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57 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

And how many times has that happened in the pros versus in college. Apples and oranges. Most college quarterbacks don't pick apart zone coverage, in the pros they have feasted on Snow's 3-3-5.   The NFL has been quick to adopt many college offensive schemes but not defensive ones. Now you know one of the reasons why.

I don’t know. What I can tell you is Rhule and Snow haven’t been together in the pros before this year. And I can confirm that Snows defense has been the driving factor behind Rhule success in college. It’s why he has kept him everywhere he went and the rankings show it every year. Rhule a offenses tend to lag behind league average where Snows defenses tend to be average to great. So while I can’t speak of the history of those rankings in the NFL the history of these two coaches together has continued its string of accuracy where again, in the NFL, the defense is rated higher than our offense compared to the rest of the league. 

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15 hours ago, Harbingers said:

Snow is not an NFL DC. Period. Anyone who says who doing better than expected with less. In reality, He isn't.

Yeah, I don't really see him doing more with less. I see him taking sonewhat-less and doing less with it.

He's in his lab and somehow figures out how to blow poo up when the game is coming to an end. That being said, I don't know that I'd say he isn't an NFL DC. He has to be learning something on-the-job. Whatever that is could lead him into developing into a good DC...or not!

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20 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

It's valid to point out they've never been together in the pros though.

Not necessarily Snow, but I do have to admit Rhule's comment that he doesn't believe in firing assistants concerns me. Lord knows Rivera stuck with Mike Shula way longer than he should have.

I hear everyone but in the pros our defense is in the teens and our offense is in the 20s. And that’s with losses of Luke, an all time great, and Bradberry, arguably one of the best corners in the game. Jackson had to become a 1 before he was ready and has played the year hurt when he’s been in. KK got hurt AGAIN, Shaq had to move to the middle, our dline has been Gross Matos, Brown, Kerr and Burns (little to no pro experience) and we might have the worst safety group in the NFL. Despite this our defense is better than last year and in the middle of the league this year. 
 

We brought in Teddy and Robbie for the offense and traded for Okung. Our offense has improved a smidge over the Kyle Allen lead offense from a year ago. 

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Panthers fan base is quite an interesting bunch, especially on the Huddle. Continuing to blame a coach, when he's working with College players for over half his starters, and he's somehow better than last year with Rivera is so fascinating to me. Let's wait until he gets a full plethora of defensive players, shall we? This year was a throw away year, and the coaches have proven their worth so far. Saying he hasn't done more with less, when in fact he has. Is a bit moronic. That shows how the Huddle is though. So, that sentiment doesn't shock me at all. 

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1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Hmmm... so the it looks like the trend has been that we've been blitzing more as the season goes on and opposing QBs have largely been playing above their average against that. The Lions game being the notable exception.

The secondary has players like you and I out there. What should we expect? 

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1 minute ago, nctarheelreincarnated said:

Panthers fan base is quite an interesting bunch, especially on the Huddle. Continuing to blame a coach, when he's working with College players for over half his starters, and he's somehow better than last year with Rivera is so fascinating to me. Let's wait until he gets a full plethora of defensive players, shall we? This year was a throw away year, and the coaches have proven their worth so far. 

They'd rather defend a journeyman QB who we gave $20M+ per season because, well... we're super prone as an organization to doing really dumb poo.

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1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Hmmm... so the it looks like the trend has been that we've been blitzing more as the season goes on and opposing QBs have largely been playing above their average against that. The Lions game being the notable exception.

This is the trend I see as well. We don’t have the secondary to cover people yet so blitzing looks cool but it kills us. Outside of the Lions game where they had no WRs so we looked better. 

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2 minutes ago, Varking said:

This is the trend I see as well. We don’t have the secondary to cover people yet so blitzing looks cool but it kills us. Outside of the Lions game where they had no WRs so we looked better. 

Snows fault. Should be blitzing more! Oh, that doesn't work? Snow's fault! Should drop more into coverage! Oh, that also doesn't work? Snow's fault. Wait, is it Snow's fault? Maybe Carolina just doesn't have the personnel. DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. 

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1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

We let our #1 CB walk and our secondary is trash. Go figure.

Next year when our OL looks like the hottest dumpster fire imaginable after letting Moton walk...

It's like you're saying we have a history of being bad at roster building :thinking:

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